Progressives are not this stupid. How do you think their discussions go? “OMG! Biden said ‘illegals!’ Vote for anyone else!”
Who are these people who are so “afraid” because Biden said the word “illegals” that they will vote for Trump?
This is almost as bad as the OP in manufactured outrage.
That’s right. I’ve hoodwinked you into thinking the thing you thought immediately when it happened.
A non zero number absolutely are. I’ve seen them, assuming they weren’t trolls. Now, whether the non zero number is statistically significant, or whether they would have voted anyway, or whether they reach and persuade a statistically significant number of people… that is a whole other question.
By the way, some listeners thought that Biden was putting “illegal” in quotation marks as a rhetorical way of throwing MTG’s term back in her face. Plausible?
A non-zero number of any given group are on the fringe. Pick your group…any group. The OP seems to be on the fringe.
I think you need more than that.
You are of course correct. Congratulations! What you fail to mention however is that I had a second thought after the first. I know it can be difficult but I would recommend trying it sometime.
If one person doesn’t read your post the way you mean it, they may be a poor reader.
If a whole batch of people don’t read your post the way you meant it, the skill issue’s probably on your part.
Yep.
Yep.
I think A LOT of us have said that. I think I said that at the very top of this thread and in other responses. I don’t get that Joe Biden supporters in this thread are giving him a pass. I get that people that love the term illegal, like @Jasmine are actually excited about it. Not sure that individual is a Biden supporter. BTW, that poster hasn’t been on my radar, but they are now and I regret posting in their recent thread. Not going to do that again.
Sure thing. Now go post on a Democratic Socialist forum somewhere about your position, and then again on Stormfront, and report back on your writing skills.
In my newfound spirit of being easy to understand, my point is that isn’t true. People see what they want to see.
Newfound. This is good.
carry on.
Ibarra was illegal in many ways. And then murdered Riley.
If anyone deserves being called a derrogertory term it’s him.
Yep.
I’m not posting there. I’m posting here. I know we’re in the Pit; but I don’t appreciate being accused of having a Stormfront sort of mindset (from what I’ve read about Stormfront.)
I’m posting here because (among other reasons) I think that for the most part people here are trying to understand each other (I will grant that there are some exceptions); and also because many, though not all, people here are capable of saying such things as 'sorry, I didn’t mean it that way though apparently what I wrote can be read that way, what I meant was . . . ’ or even 'sorry to have been confusing! What I meant was . . . ’ instead of attacking the posters who misunderstood them.
Let me explain it to you.
The reason you don’t argue this stuff anymore is because you can’t argue this stuff. You don’t have an argument to make. Trump was a terrible President and would be a terrible President again if he was put back in office.
Saying “also” is bullshit. Donald Trump is a scumbag and a racist. Joe Biden is not a scumbag or a racist. Trump, as I said, was a terrible President and is a terrible human being. Biden is a good President (I wouldn’t call him a great President) and is a good human being. There is no equivalence between the two men, politically or otherwise. Biden is better than Trump, both as a President and as a human being.
Note that I said Biden is not a great President. He sometimes makes mistakes and he sometimes does dumb things (like the example you gave). But he makes a lot fewer mistakes than Trump and he does a lot fewer dumb things than Trump. It’s not even close.
So when it’s time to choose who should be President, the choice is clear. Biden is better than Trump. So we should choose Biden.
I haven’t attacked anyone, except for calling Darren a racist, which he is. I have however been attacked repeatedly, so I don’t know that you’re framing the way this thread has developed in a particularly accurate way.
I will clarify that I wasn’t saying you had a Stormfront mindset. I was saying that you can make the same point with the same level of fluency in different places and be given wildly different receptions, depending on how much grace they’re willing to give you. This place is not a place that gives grace to pointing out what Joe Biden does wrong. Writing sentences differently won’t change that.
thanks
So how come the multiple other people in this thread, me included, who have said that Biden shouldn’t have used “illegal” to refer to a person haven’t been jumped on in this thread for it?
Such as…?
@Jimmy_Chitwood should add this to the list of complaints of Biden (honestly, this seems a bit worse to me):
I’m still voting for Biden come November. Nowhere near a close choice.
Yup. If your going to complain that Biden isn’t doing enough to court the electorate and poll better don’t be surprised when you don’t like the positions he must take to do that.
It might come as a shock to progressives but the country doesn’t, necessarily, agree with all the things you espouse.
If one is going to insist on progressive/leftist purity tests in this particular election all I can say is . . . I’ll save you a nice bed in the concentration camp the conservatives are wanting to build for the country.
What are these things progressives espouse that you disagree with?
How are progressives distinct from any other political group in this regard?