Strange, is it not? Just yesterday trump himself was asking for Congress to forgo the usual August break to work hard though some very important files and pieces of ass legislation:
President Donald Trump is leaning on Senate Majority Leader John Thune to cancel the so-called “August recess,” when both the House and the Senate go out of session for a month in the dead of summer.
The reason: The president is eager to get more of his nominees confirmed.
“Hopefully the very talented John Thune, fresh off our many victories over the past two weeks and, indeed, 6 months, will cancel August recess (and long weekends!), in order to get my incredible nominees confirmed,” Trump wrote on Truth Social over the weekend. “We need them badly!!!”
And now they can’t go for holidays soon enough. Coherent as usual, I call that. Wonder whether they will get away with that too.
How often does law enforcement go after the customers of pimps? How often do customers maintain private worries years after the pimp’s arrest? I don’t see this as a travesty at all. Maxwell served time, Epstein decided that ending his life was better than life imprisonment. That’s 2 people punished. The travesty will come in early 2029 when Trump pardons Maxwell. Another travesty occurred in 2008, when Acosta delivered a sweetheart plea deal to Epstein. The overarching travesty of course is that President Sex Pest wants to be President for Life and half the country doesn’t care.
ETA below: Cite? Real question. Let’s figure this out. (Or bow out, and I’ll do the googling.) Agree with your 2nd paragraph.
When the customers engage in sex with minors? All the time.
These aren’t prostitutes, these were underaged girls often tricked into going there (based on testimony) and then paid off after the fact. This aren’t women turning tricks on the street or working in an established brothel.
I perceive child sex trafficking in general as tragic, with this case being a egregious example of it. But I suspect most all of them are pretty horrific.
ETA below: Because such tragedies occur all the fucking time. Travesties imply something unusual.
Ok, I googled. Here’s one case of the perp trafficking one minor and given a life sentence. No evidence of the authorities working with customer lists:
Here’s another case of a GOP donor sentenced to 21 years for a far more extensive list of victims. No evidence of the authorities working with customer lists:
To prove my perception, I’d need more examples collected systematically. This isn’t my wheelhouse. But these were the first 2 cases I located.
In the first case that you give, it says that the girl was messaging with different men and the pimp was looped in to approve/decline the offers.
If I was an officer, I’d be going through the girl’s chat history and creating a list of people to investigate and send the town prosecutor at. I’d expect many or all of those people to plea for a sexual offender registration and no jail time. I wouldn’t particularly expect most of those to end up making the news, nor to be mentioned in the trial of the pimp, nor would I expect my list to be mentioned in the news.
We only know of the pimps because the town prosecutor actively promoted the court case and conviction. Generally, the press isn’t aware of most activities undertaken by the police nor the attorney’s office.
Is this standard practice? If so, good. I’ve heard complaints about disproportionate law enforcement focus on prostitutes as opposed to their customers, but that isn’t child sex trafficking and this isn’t my wheelhouse.
I’m surprised that an investigation of the kind that you report wouldn’t be mentioned in the news stories that I reported. I would think such mention would have a deterrent effect.
According to the Wikipedia, there’s about 800-900k people listed on sexual offender registries. They didn’t sign up out of the goodness of their hearts.
You’d need to envision a cop that feels like molesting kids is a smaller crime than street walking and who would rather cruise around hoping to find a woman soliciting herself out, versus taking a ready to go digital list of a few dozen pedophiles that you can easily crank out some good numbers for the month with, and decides to go with route 1.
I’d venture to guess that the issue for ladies of the night is that 1) some creep cops are trying to get free sex - but that’s incidental to what they’re doing most of the time, outside of public view - and 2) lefties love sex workers (for the womens’ sake, of course) and hate cops, and the news room is mostly populated with lefties. Between those two, the coverage is skewed.
I appreciate the reply Sage_Rat (I do), but I don’t think we’ve found evidence (or even a single example) of law enforcement following up child sex trafficking convictions with a careful or not-so-careful arrest of those on the customer list. Sure there are lots of people on the sex offender registry (25% related to crimes committed when they were a minor, some guilty of public urination) but that doesn’t give us a clear idea of the nature of their arrest.
I trust coverage is skewed, but lefties aren’t particularly fond of prostitution customers (while newsrooms in general get along well with cops who feed them stories). The simple explanation is that serious investigation of prostitution client lists is atypical, though it happens. Fox40 News link: " Sacramento deputies bust johns, rescue sex workers in trafficking sting"
(FOX40.COM) — With the hope of busting johns and rescuing sex workers, Sacramento County Sheriff’s deputies were out in full force Friday night for a human trafficking sting operation.
SCSO deputies, some armed and wired, and undercover cops posed as prostitutes in north Sacramento near Watt Avenue. The area has historically been a popular place for sex workers.
“Tonight, we’re focusing on Johns, basically, in the county,” said SCSO deputy Shayn Bowen. “There’s lots of sex workers, especially underage sex workers that are out there.”
Hoo-boy. That looks like a media event dressed up with trigger words like “Sex trafficking”, and “Underage sex workers.”
Doing a deep dive on sexual offender metrics is probably more involved than I can get to.
A specific example though would be the FBI’s Operation Cross Country, which appears to be a yearly initiative to hunt down sex traffickers and pull in everyone involved, from all angles. Here’s an announcement on the results of Operation (Year?) 12.
The definition of a travesty is a distortion, or grossly inferior imitation.
This is a travesty of justice, specifically. Justice was not served. The person most responsible escaped justice through death, and many others who deserved severe punishment for raping children or supporting the enterprise escaped any consequences at all.
Fine. Then I’m saying this travesty is routine, as there’s no direct evidence here that cops ever troll through client lists of convicted child pimps, though they should. And outrage would be more usefully directed against more active and recent cases, in the interest of deterrence.
Sage_Rat has usefully cast reasonable doubt upon my contention. And if I’m very wrong, that is a very good thing. But I haven’t yet located direct evidence to the contrary, including at the FBI link.
In other news, what is Trump afraid of? What sort of evidence could hurt him? I say flight logs to Epstein island indicating repeated visits is something that might hurt him, though it wouldn’t be sufficient evidence to convict him of anything. I say there’s fire underneath the smoke and Speaker Johnson appears to agree with me. The cover-up is frantic:
