Handy for bottles, too.
Eating planets is thirsty work.
“In the heartland of the Galaxy, there’s a big job to be done.”
Gotta wash 'em down with something,
Watched this last night on Disney+. Generally agree with most of the comments… disappointing, overstuffed, squandered some interesting ideas, deviants plot went nowhere.
A few (new?) comments:
-Some of the visuals were absolutely stunning… particularly the shots where they were showing the scale of Arishem vs the Eternals. Now, obviously, bigger doesn’t necessarily mean more powerful, but it was certainly an effective and memorable image
-One thing that left me scratching my head was how they all knew where each other were. If they had disbanded and gone their separate ways in the 1970s, then sure, they can probably keep phone lists or something. But if they disbanded in 1500 and went to opposite sides of the planet, how do they possibly keep in touch? None of them seemed to have long-distance-communication tech or abilities that I saw. How did they know they wouldn’t get to that Amazon village and telepath-guy had moved somewhere else 10 years earlier and how the heck are they ever going to find him now?
-I really like the idea of “beings honestly think they are superheroes protecting humans… but at the last moment they learn they are just fattening up humans for the slaughter”. There’s a TON of potential there. But if that’s the lie they’re being fed, why have them only fight against deviants? Why wouldn’t it be in Arashem’s best interest for the Eternals to have helped save the world any of the various times it has nearly ended in MCU continuity? If the dark elves won in Thor: the Dark World, then there are going to be a lot fewer humans for Tiamut to eat. (And of course, why didn’t Dr. Strange show up and take a gander at, gee, I dunno, a GOD HATCHING OUT OF EARTH???). Basically, shoehorning this movie and these characters into MCU continuity is even tougher than it normally is for new MCU characters. Might have worked better if there was a bit of multiverse thrown in… they were in a separate earth all along, with no superheroes or anything, and then they win their big fight at the end and the strain pops them into a different branch of the multiverse, or something.
-I’m quite sick in sci-fi of “oh, humans are the special-est of all sentient species”. What, did none of the previous worlds full of intelligent beings do enough eat-pray-love for Ajak to care about them, but then humans do? Come on.
-I didn’t care in the slightest about Thena-is-having-mental-issues. There were just no stakes there. Obviously she’s going to get better so she can have a big badass fighting moment at the end, I was just rolling my eyes.
They’ve got a space ship. I don’t think it’s a stretch to assume they’ve also got cell phones.
Maybe they’re all on Facebook. They say it’s becoming an old person’s platform.
Sure, but that’s not at all how it’s presented. They never say “yeah, let’s check let (foo) know we’re coming” or “hey, check with (foo) and see where they’re living these days”. It sure seems like they have to physically go to the (exotic) locale, and they just know where to go because of… reasons?
Not a super-big deal, but I do wish there’d been a throwaway line of “hey, check in via (technobabble) every 10 years” or something.
Oddly enough, that makes it a lot like the comic books. ![]()
I got the impression that some of them were in contact with some of the others, through mundane means. It sure seemed like they all knew where Ajak’s ranch was, and at least Sersei, Sprite, and Ikaris occasionally visited there. I got the impression most of them checked in with Ajak from time to time, and probably traded gossip about what was going on everyone’s lives. I also go the impression that Ajak was keeping Ikaris, as her second-in-command and the only one trusted with the Secret, informed as to what she knew about everyone else.
Ikaris had obviously been keeping tabs on Sersei after they broke up. I can’t remember now who knew what, but I think one of them happened to know Kingo was in Bollywood, one of them happened to know Druig was running a commune in the Amazon, and so on. And they all seemed a bit surprised when they found Makkari in the ship, so it seemed like they had all lost track of her.
Thanos is the worst example, destroying half the life in the universe completely wrecks the Celestials entire plan, it makes ZERO sense to ignore him. It even makes the ending of the movie stupid, all they have to do to justify saving the Earth is say “Thanos”.
The trick is that some people are already saying the movie was over-stuffed and yet here is someone who wanted more things stuffed in. Sure, other things could’ve been taken out to make room, but there’s always going to be that tension between what to put in the movie and what not to.
For me, I trust the director to tell the story they want to tell. When something is “missing”, I assume it’s not important to the story and don’t give it another thought. It doesn’t mean I necessarily like the story, of course.
I mean, I see what you’re saying. I wouldn’t want even 60 full seconds of screen time explaining the rules of how they communicate, etc.
But, upon thinking about it a bit more, it’s an important point in character development that they do NOT have cell phones, because Sirsi waited for years for Ikarus to return after he left her. Her character arc depended on not being able to communicate with him or (presumably) find him.
But then, when they do need to find each other, they can. Why? How? Do the writers of the movie have a solid and consistent answer to that, and they just couldn’t squeeze it in in the runtime? Possibly… but (and again, this is not hugely important on the grand scale of things) it definitely felt more to me like they just didn’t think it mattered. How did they know where Phastos was living? They just did. Why did Sirsi not previously know where Ikarus was after she left him? She just didn’t.
I haven’t walked out on a movie in… carry the two… about fifty years.
I just never thought it’d be a superhero movie.
Let alone Marvel.
I think I’ve watched everything Marvel has put out… early Spidey and Hulk TV series, all the Netflix characters, every movie… I even made it through the first FF (Roger Corman’s).
But, after about twenty minutes, I realized I really didn’t care about any of the characters. After another eternal half hour, I said to myself “I’m less than halfway through…”, and I just couldn’t make it. I honestly thought of a closet I was clearing out and I realized I’d rather get back to that.
I think it’s becoming apparent that the Marvel bench isn’t quite as deep as we all thought. There is a much bigger difference between the B list characters and the C list characters than there is between the A and B list ones. The barrel scrapings are getting close to Millie the Model territory.
I watched it last week. I liked it more than I dislliked it. I thought I would hate it because the “Eternals” sounded like they were overpowered much like the Phoenix. (They have been depowered from the comics.)
I felt there were too many characters at the start, but by the time the main conflict erupted I knew all their names and powers. The number of characters was needed, IMO, so they could have different views on things. Kingo surprised the hell out of me, so for that reason he was worth having in the movie.
It’s probably a good thing I didn’t know who the Eternals were. They changed a lot of characters.
Somebody was asking about Druig earlier on in the thread. I think it’s just “druid”, so not based on a specific character. (So a druid operating a commune in a forest somewhere? Yeah, that makes sense, even if mind control really has nothing to do with what little we know about druids.)
No. It’s Druig. He showed up late in the original Kirby run (#11) and was a bad guy Eternal.
Well…we don’t really know do we? all we saw them fight is the Deviants and each other, so who knows how they actually compare in power to other MCU heavy weights. They did manage to kill a Celestial.
They have much narrower powers. From what I’ve read, all could fly, and presumably Ikarus could fly the fastest. In the movie only Ikarus can fly. In the comics, they seem to be like the Marvel family in the Shazam! movie (there everyone has the same powers, but one is exceptionally strong, one exceptionally fast, etc).
As for taking on a baby Celestial, they had to “cheat”. Arishem showed up and just kidnapped three of them without breaking a sweat.
I was referring to what mythological character Druig is based on.