The Flash S02E01: The Man Who Saved Central City

You can always trust Cisco to hang a lampshade on the otherwise ridiculous nature of the Flash universe. His best line was remarking on the better security at Mercury Labs, where people can’t just walk in all the time. Even better, that was just a setup for the end of the episode, when he says he’s beefed up security at STAR Labs so no one can just walk in - then Jay Garrick just walks in. Jay Garrick!

I am glad we were spared six months of angsty Barry Allen going at it alone. Just enough in this episode to establish that he was indeed working alone and then the team gets back together, minus Harrison Wells. (Tom Cavanagh is still in the credits - and not as a guest star either, unlike Rick Cosnett - so what’s going to be his future role?)

Poor Caitlin can’t catch a break, losing her husband on their wedding day. Now why wasn’t Firestorm also credited with saving Central City?

And finally, ZOOM!

Sorry about you spending six extra months in jail dad, I had the blues.

Well, this episode established that even if someone (like Rothstein) dies, his counterpart from an alternate reality (the other Rothstein) can show up.

I’m not so sure I want back-to-back speedsters as the season-long arc, but I really enjoy the show (much more than Arrow) and I’m hoping they do something fresh. I hope that somehow Edge as Atom Smasher comes back as a tweener. We also got another glimpse of Cisco’s powers.

I hadn’t paid attention to the casting of Jay Garrick, but they really should have gotten someone older.

Regarding Firestorm and Eddie Thawne:

Obviously Firestorm isn’t dead as he is a main character on Legends of Tomorrow, the upcoming series. As for the actor playing Eddie, he nabbed himself a recurring role on one of the new network shows…Quantico, I think, though I’m not looking it up at this time. Unlikely we’ll see much of him.

My inner child fanboy is squeeing over Jay Garrick, with the helmet. It’s a Silver Age geek’s dream come true.

[spoiler]No, Martin Stein has been confirmed to be on Legends of Tomorrow. Ronnie Raymond hasn’t.

Rick Cosnett had a guest spot in the second episode of Quantico. It remains to be seen how often he’ll appear. He might have time to pop over to Central City every once in a while.[/spoiler]

I agree Jay Garrick could be older, but his voice sounds exactly right.

Ronnie Raymond and Eddie Thawne:

I thought I saw Firestorm, but it looks like Robbie Amell will be on X-Files, so I was mistaken. I know Cosnett has a recurring gig for the first season. How the two shooting schedules work is anyone’s guess.

Was Atom Smasher killed or just knocked out?

^ This.

This is why, despite Gotham being better acted, SHIELD being more complex plots, Daredevil having better fight coreography and so on, Flash is by far my favorite of the current crop of super-hero shows.

It’s accessible to noobs, but it’s also a love letter to Silver Age fanboys.

I would have liked a scene with Barry and Henry visiting the grave of Barry’s mother - I doubt Henry ever had the chance to do so, since he was arrested minutes after the murder.

I was wondering if Barry was going to remember to disguise his voice at the Flash Day ceremony.

As for Firestorm I think there will be another character who will be the “other half” of Firestorm. That’s what they’ve done in the comics.

If they’re pulling people in and out of various universes maybe that’s how they manage a Killer Frost appearance.

I know it doesn’t pay to think to closely about time travel, but since I thought of this I’m going to inflict this on my fellow Dopers.

Since Eddie Thawne shot himself causing Eobard Thawne to derez, who was it that made the confession of killing Barry’s mother? It would have to be Harrison Wells himself. If, as seems likely, we get another Dr Wells from another universe, he would wanted for murder in this universe.

If Eobard was never born, who was it that killed Barry’s mother?

The other Waldo Pepper wrote: “If Eobard was never born, who was it that killed Barry’s mother?”

Eobard, of course. But he did it before he was never born.

Nobody can say time travel doesn’t work this way or that until there is actual experimental data on the subject.

Yeah, I guess only killing Eobard was affected. Weird.

The real Harrison Wells? Or whatever the universe uses to fill the Wells shaped hole in it.

Barry’s mom probably falls under “fixed point in time.” Something unfortunate would’ve happened to her which implicated his dad and laid the groundwork for Barry’s emergence as The Flash.

I’m waiting for the daughter or son Wells didn’t know he had. Then we’ll see some wars of the worlds.

Should Barry have contacted Harrison Wells’ family to inform them about the confession…and maybe tell them the truth about what happened?

Nobody tell him.