Fellow dopers, what do our collective minds know about Glenn Danzig of Misfits, Samhain, and his eponymous band’s fame? A request comes to you from the depths of the internet. Hear its call!
My friend needs some help impressing her gentlemen-friend who has already impressed her by contributing to a wall of Lionel Richie images (so you can see what’s at stake here). This gentlemen-friend is a self-described (or at least someone described him so) rabid Danzig fan, while the lady trying to impress him knows nothing about any of Danzig’s bands. Obviously, this is a travesty in many ways.
She hopes to win him over by writing a post in livejournal about how much she loves Danzig, using all sorts of estoteric Danzig-knowledge that only a True Fan would know. Essentially, she needs someone to give her all the good lines, a prompter.
Even though the gentlemen-friend will see right through this ploy, she is pretty sure he’ll be charmed. And after all, what good is knowledge if we can’t charm our favorite sex with it? Surely dopers of all people can empathize with this situation.
Are there any well-versed Danzig fans out there willing to help out? I love Danzig’s music, but I’ve never fallen over into fandom, and I know nothing of the man personally, so I cannot be of any service.
Well, Danzig is a big comic book fan, and started his own comic company called Verotik. They published “mature-readers” comics, mainly horror but with plenty of nudity and adult themes, including Satanika, Verotika, and Jaguar God. I’ve never read any of these, and I’m pretty sure Verotik is no longer around. I’m not sure if he was just the publisher, or also a writer or editor, but I’m sure some Googling would turn up the straight dope, so to speak.
Glenn Danzig was considered for the role of Wolverine in the first X-Men movie.
He wrote songs for Roy Orbison and Johnny Cash.
He has given some disturbing interviews in which he’s made borderline White Supremacist statements about a coming “race war,” “white pride” and the like. He claimed in one interview (I think it was Spin Magazine, I know the interviewer was Ann Rice) that he had recorded a song called “White Devil Rise.” It was never released and the rumors are that his record company thought it was too blatantly racist.
I used to be somewhat of a fan of his but after reading his moronic, racist blathering in a couple of interviews I can’t stand the guy anymore.
I heard rumors of this as far back as 1990 but that was well before things like Snopes and Google that help you check the validity of rumors. Is this documented anywhere?
Cites? I know you wouldn’t just pull this out of your ass, I just find it shocking. I’ve always known Danzig is an asshole but I’ve never thought of him as ignorant or hateful.
I saw it mentioned one of those Entertainment Tonight type shows a few years ago. I also found [on the net in which Danzig confirms that he was considered:
I couldn’t find the Ann Rice interview where talks more explicitly about a race war and mentions his “White Devil Rise” recording (Some various google searches turned up several links to the Stormfront boards. They seem to have embraced him as one of their own).
I did find [url=http://www.the7thhouse.com/news/Articles/seconds44.htm]this](]this interview[/url) interview in which he he stops short of calling himself a racist but expresses some very borderline views (including callings AIDS a "cleansing process). He also mentions a race war.
he sort of denies being a White Suremacist in my linked interview, but he says enough to be disturbing IMO, and he said even more in that Spin interview which I can’t find. I’ve never heard anyone who wan’t a racist (or at least a complete idiot) talk seriously about a race war.
It sounded to me like he was talking from more of a historical standpoint. Basically saying there have been wars between races in the past so there probably will be in the future. He could’ve been talking about 700 or 800 years from now.
I did not, anywhere, get the impression that he thought a “race war” was iminent in our lifetimes. I think when he said " Twenty Black guys with guns aren’t going to care that I’m not with anybody.", he was speaking more anectdotally, saying “When wars happen between two races, [people of race 1] aren’t going to care that [person of race 2] isn’t with anyone.”
I don’t know. Maybe I’m overrationalizing. I like the give people the benefit of the doubt in cases like this though. Sometimes you say things with good intentions and later look back and say “What the HELL was I thinking?!”
Him saying that people who thought he was racist could suck his dick gives him a lot of credibility in my book.
There have been race wars in the past? Really? When? I’ve never heard of one.
He said it in the Spin interview (which, sadly I can’t find). He said something to the efect of “We have to get ready for this race war coming up.” As I said before, he also mentioned a song about called “White Devil Rise” which he hinted was a sort of call to arms for white people. The Spin interview went further than this one does.
I still think the notion is ridiculous.
I understand the desire to rationalize it. I used to really like him. I even covered a couple of his songs in my band- hell, I still like to jam on some of those old Misfits songs- but I got really bugged after reading the Spin interview. If he isn’t a racist, he said some things that were close enough to make me feel abivalent about enjoying his music.
I know it’s a contradiction. I just think he has a weird socio-political view of it rather than a pseudo-biological one.
Met him in 1993 (well ok, he walked pasted me) at the Metallica/Danzig/Suicidal Concert in Summerset, Wisconsin. Was a hair taller than me at 5’6". Either that, or his boots have some lift on them.
(And the information is interesting for my own matters.)