If he has done a good job and worked hard at a bargain price I’d consider a serious tip. Yes, there is the chance you’'ll just be putting extra money in a sleaze bag who is just bidding his time and keeping low. But there is also the chance you’ll be putting well appreciated money into the pocket of somebody who isn’t who they were decades ago, has turned their life around, and could probably use the money. I risk the chance of doing the first for the opportunity of possibly doing the second.
As for the let em know you know? I can see either way being the right way to go on that one. My inclination would be to let him know. Don’t make a big deal about it. Just state it and drop it unless he wants to engage more. And if you are serious about hiring him for more work let him know that. Then, if you do let him know, tell him you would consider recommending him but that you would HAVE to let those people you recommend him to know his history and ask him whether he would want that or not.
Then, give a firm handshake and wish him luck .
Oh, I wonder if there is anyway to talk to his parole officer, how that would go, how it should be approached, and whether that would be a good idea or not.
IMHO you should let him know that he has a criminal background and that it could affect his ability to work for you, he will understand. There is no need to go into details, his reaction might be telling. Do you have any idea how long he was in? Did I understand correctly that he will be removed from the SO list when he completes parole?
Just to add if you wish a call to his parole officer it would be welcomed by all. Most employers don’t/won’t call, so a PO has little info to work with.
He didn’t rob a 7-11 or steal a car. He raped a little girl. I object to his continued existence. The way I see it, the only right he has is to have his fucking head sawed off with a rusty blade.
I do, why not? If he’s a good worker and you have more work for him but you’re hesitant about hiring him because of his criminal record just say so and give him a chance to explain himself. Maybe his explanation will be stupid or sound insincere and you can just pass and move on, or maybe he’ll speak to you honestly and you’ll feel confident that he’s a good hire.
Either way is better than skirting around the issue, pretending you don’t know when you actually do, or letting a good worker go over what could be a misunderstanding or mistake of the justice system.
I would consider calling the PO listed on the DOC website, see if she can assure you that she will not let him know you were asking about him. She should be able to fill you in on any details.
If you want to let him know you know, why not in a roundabout way.
“hey, you’ve done a good job here, I’ve got more work coming up but need to check if there’s any restrictions because of your parole or sex offender registration I need to know about first”.
And to The Man In Black, “rape” has a whole slew of meanings, from (as can be seen from the actual statute) touching to penis in vagina sex.
We don’t know what he actually did. And it was 22 years ago. As much as I would be damn fucking upset if somebody touched my 8 year old, I (hope) that I can still recognise that it’s a continum, and not all acts are equal.
I like the round-a-bout idea. I am strongly considering him for more work. There is plenty that needs to be done and a short supply of small contractors who are actually reliable. He has done really good work and completed a few things I didn’t even ask him to do; he is also punctual and keeps in touch well. He has returned all my calls, supplied me with all the receipts, and saved me a few hundred dollars.
My wife and I decided that we need to ask him at least to explain himself. I don’t necessarily want details because it is going to be coming from him and I’m sure his version is quite a bit different. Additionally, I have no interest in hearing the details; I just want to know that he is indeed a better person than he once was. The thing that gives me the most doubt is that he has more convictions. So far I have found these:
Passing Bad Check–Under { Misdemeanor A RSMo: 570.120 }
Dwr(Susp Prob Cause .10% { Misdemeanor A RSMo: 302.321 }
Failure To Register Mtr Veh { Misdemeanor B RSMo: 301.020 }
Nonsupport In Each Of Six Individual Months Within Any Twelve-Month Period, Amount Owed Is In Excess Of $5000 { Felony D RSMo: 568.040 }
Failure To Complete And Submit Offender Registration Form With Chief Law Enforcement Officer { Misdemeanor A RSMo: 589.425 }
Dwi - Alcohol { Misdemeanor B RSMo: 577.010
Dwr(Susp Prob Cause .10% { Misdemeanor A RSMo: 302.321 }
This is quite the list of convictions. There were others that were too old for the charges to still be listed under the database I am using. This really gives me pause as to whether I should give him more work or not. There is nothing for fraud or theft, but goodness, there is a lot.
That is a long list of shit. *But, *the only one that’s higher than a misdemeanor is the child support charge, at least. Do you have dates for those charges?
I’m really glad you supplemented their dinner, BTW. That makes me all :( inside.
If nobody will ever hire him, how’s he even supposed to support *himself, *much less a child? Refusing him steady work is only going to put him further down the well. Imprisoning him for being unable to afford child support (given that he’s unable to secure steady employment) would amount to, essentially, confining him to debtor’s prison.
To the people gnashing their teeth and wailing, “Off with his head!” or “What if it was you/your 6 year old who got molested? :mad:” Well, I’m a victim of molestation. I’m able to assess the situation moderately, though. According to the statute posted upthread, the offense could have been anything from improper touching (with accompanying mental scarring, for the victim) to full-on rape (which entails mental scarring *as well as *enormous amounts of pain, physical scarring, and potential loss of future fertility). Based on the sentence, it’s much more likely the former than the latter. Yes child sexual abuse is fucking awful, but there are mitigating circumstances here–like the short sentence, the length of time that has passed since his last known sexual offense, and the fact that he seems to have decent work references. Give the guy a fuckin’ mulligan.
I really like the suggestion of giving him a little something extra. OP: If you can afford it, maybe you can consider giving him a nice bonus check (like a $50 or $100 check in a sealed envelope on his way out the door on the last day), since he’s doing good cut-rate work in this heat.
I didn’t say I wanted him in my life. A one time, horrendous screw-up I can possibly get past, but not all of it as a whole. I don’t want him in my life, per say, but it is hard to find good work at a reasonable price around here. I understand your position Rand Rover. You think he is scum and deserves a bullet in the head, but I’m trying to be fair here and it just isn’t working.
Thank you for the suggestions, Rachelle. He has already earned a tip he doesn’t know about by putting up a range hood without me asking him to do it. He heard me tell my wife in passing that I’d need an electrician since the wiring in the house was so sketchy and old. He put it up and told me later; he didn’t seem to be seeking praise. When he left last night he needed cash, rather than my standard check, because he needed money to get him through Sunday. I gave him $50 on a prepaid card to get him through the weekend. There will be plenty of work if I decide to stick with him, but like I said, I just don’t know. The most recent conviction I listed looks like its from '07.
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