That’s a rather long list - HOWEVER, aside from the DWI they look like a pretty typical list from somebody that has a problem staying employed and earning honest money.
They seem to be the sorts of offences that are all directly related to the original offence over 20 years ago - so while I don’t condone them, they seem to be “related” rather than new illegalities. (i.e - I’m kinda a little forgiving of them, or at least more so than if there was a whole long list of violent offences, or theft or similar)
Likewise, Bengangmo. I imagine life has not been easy for him over the last 22 years so I can see why the aforementioned charges could be excused or at least looked at without making a harsh judgement. Obviously the judges he dealt with didn’t feel it necessary to incarcerate him.
I just said that I think the guy is a fucking loser and I wouldn’t hire him, and if I were the OP I would fire his ass post-haste. How you get from that to grand proclamations starting with “well if nobody ever hires him” I will never know. I don’t care what other people do. I’m not basing my actions on the effects on this one guy of a hypothetical universe where everyone does what I do. The guy is a loser, I wouldn’t want him near me, that’s the end of it.
Gotta love the SDMB. Someone starts an OP about how to treat a sex offender and all-around loser they hired and several people suggest to pay him more.
He’s in your house, talking to your wife, having conversations with you, dealing with stuff involving money and fixing your house–he’s in your life, at least while he’s working for you.
I don’t think he deserves a bullet in the head–I don’t think “deserves” means anything. I’m just telling you what I would do, which is to not have people like this in my life.
OK broseph, no problem. Tomorrow tell him that you have to let him go. Say you aren’t going to be doing the project you hired him for due to money troubles or because you have to move really quickly, something like that. Give him any money you owe him, shake his hand, say you are sorry and that he did a good job, and off he fucks.
Fortunately, he is not in my home. He is in a vacant rental house and only has contact with my wife when I’m around. I truly do understand where you are coming from though. He may be a loser, but he is doing a damn good job at the tasks I hired him for. I guess I am having trouble seeing this as a black and white issue and I envy the fact that you can.
Because, it’s kinda assumed
“I would never” = “Nobody should ever”
You can only expect the same standard from others that you expect of yourself.
If you are quite willing to condemn the guy, why should anyone else hire him. Ever.
Your post fits in perfectly with everything else you post on this board.
All I can say is that it simply reaffirms that I’m more than pleased that I don’t know you. You’re far from the sort of person that I would like to spend any time with, and further, you sound like a fucking self entitled, arrogant kumkwat to me.
I don’t deal in “should,” broseph. It’s a meaningless thing to talk about. I do make policy arguments about what course a government should take, but I don’t say someone “should” do something because to do otherwise would be “immoral” or any such nonsense.
And of course these posts fit in with everything else I post. I’m a rational person who loves his family and doesn’t put up with other people’s bullshit. I don’t see why I’d make an exception on any of those scores for this guy.
Allow be to be a devil’s advocate here, no pun intended.
What possible benefit is there to you confronting him about things you know to be true and which don’t materially affect your business relationship with the guy? I can’t think of any possible positive outcome. His only possible response will be to be embarassed and say “yeah, I did those things but I’m trying to do better now.” What the hell else is he going to say?
If his plan is to continue being a criminal he’s not going to admit that, is he?
He has a criminal past. Criminals tend to have a lot of convictions. Either keep using him or don’t, but acting like some sort of judge isn’t going to do you any good. You’ll create a dynamic there that simply doesn’t do either of you any good. Just do business with him or don’t do business with him.
If you think you’re getting value for your money, personally, I’d keep doing business with him, since he’s not really in a position where his history presents a risk to you, especially given his track record of service to you. But that’s just me. Shut up about his past and tell him what you want fixed, or else don’t.
I agree with this in full RickJay. My wife, however, is hesitant to keep him employed because this is a small town and she is worried about what kind of reputation we may gain if his background was exposed to the community. She is a psychologist who believes she can judge whether or not he is a changed man by listening to his explanation, looking for regret, and examining his behavior when confronted with the situation.
Personally, I don’t see what good can come of it either and I’m on the same side of the fence as you. He is doing good by me and has been honest and straight forward when it comes to prices and time frames. At this point I will probably hire him for more work; I just wanted to check his background to make sure there were no charges of fraud or theft. If there were any of those I could see asking him about it, otherwise it just feels like its none of my business. If it had just happened and it was making headlines in the local paper I could justify asking him. If I develop a further working relationship with him I may ask him about it in a round-a-bout way in the future. I have no desire to be his friend or anything like that, but I do want to know the people I have handling my money/materials.
This is both the joy of a small community, and represents all that is wrong with them. I grew up in a small town, and the help they can give is amazing.
At the same time, who you want to legally hire is totally your own business, and you should never be made to feel ashamed or “scared” of what others will think of you when legally hiring someone to work on your place.
I’m a contrary prick, so that sort of reaction would make me MORE likely to keep him on, not less.
So is child raping in Canada okay but tipping bad? Or the other way around? I forget. Though I have heard that in Europe they pay their child rapist a living wage so over there you don’t have to tip and its not expected (but the raping service sucks)
