The holocaust is a hoax ....

Obviously, those photos are REALLY documentation of the slaves of the Elders of Zion removing the dead, blood-drained bodies of innocent Christians from the Sacrifice Rooms. Duh.

That’s a hoax. piranhas save drowning water buffalo! It’s a conspiracy by by the water buffalo media. All the water buffalo bones in the bottom of the Nile where left their by buffalo that died of old age.

The videos of piranhas on buffalo where photoshops done in a elaborate conspiracy to edit in attacking piranha one frame at a time.

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Northern Ireland is not The Republic and so have different laws. We had a bit of a issue about the whole thing over the last few decades you may have heard about it.

Anyway, while we have Incitement to Hatred laws there are no holocaust denial laws on the books.

David Irving talked here at Trinity College. I know because while he enjoyed his constitutional(the Irish one) rights I also enjoyed mine and protested outside making it as hard as possible, while staying within the law, for the neo-nazi fuck.

[hijack]And that is a hecatomb, iirc – the mass sacrifice of one hundred.[/hijack]

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Great Scott ! I’m Irish (no kidding).

Dang it I thought there were piranha in Africa too and I always get wilder beast and water buffalo confused. >.<

I just had my ignorance fought in a holocaust deniers thread. What an odd turn of events.

There are actually people who study the psychology and motives of Holocaust deniers, and the conclusion they mainly come to is this:

They are predominently Nazi-wannabes. But they are smart enough to realize that one of the main reaons Nazism is so reviled in the world is the memory of the Holocaust. If only they can get the world to believe that the Holocaust did not occur, then Nazism could come back as a legitimate political philosophy (they think).

Ed

I have reread your OP, as instructed. Please point out to me where you say you’ve proven the Holocaust never happened. And don’t point me to another website or a book to read. Several of your points have already been disputed by others smarter than I. You teed up the ball, it’s up to you to sink it in the hole. Thus far you haven’t done anything other than cite hardly unbiased sources.

Allan, you’ll agree that you hold a, charitably spoken, rather controversial minority view. So, it’s only natural that the burden of proof should lie with you, not with those adhering to what’s commonly taken to be historical fact; so, keeping this in mind, to you have any response to my earlier post?

That’s one hec of a tomb.

Well, he says the book title answers the question. Said title: “The First Holocaust - Jewish Fundraising Campaigns with Holocaust Claims During World War One”

Reading between the surprisingly coy lines, the thesis that our bold champion of free speech seems strangely reluctant to state in as many words would appear to be that the Jews themselves perpetrated the hoax (no doubt abusing to the full the unparalleled power and access which they enjoyed under the Third Reich) simply as a device for raising money. We can only wonder, in the absence of any clear statement of the thesis, whether the sheer implausibility of any group conceiving and executing such a complex and extensive fraud as pure money-making venture is held to be lessened by the consideration that the group in question consists of Jews. But surely - surely - not.

An alternative thesis - that the peoples of Europe have a long and inglorious history of sporadic violence against their Jewish neighbours, particularly in periods of war, famine or strife; that WWI was such a period; and that the “Holocaust Claims” spoken of in the title might well be accurate accounts of anti-Jewish violence - has, presumably, been dismissed. Not, of course, dismissed out of hand, but on the basis of cites that are as impartial as they are accessible, and as free of the taint of anti-Semitism as they are rooted in historical fact.

Please be kidding or at least mean it in the American way of having a distant relative.

I don’t want to have you as a fellow citizen.

To deny the Holocaust is to deny one’s humanity - Noam Chomsky

The OP’s posting style being somewhat incoherent, I did a bit of research. Apparently, both Northern Ireland & the Republic have laws against Incitement to Hatred. The links went to laws enacted by both governments.

However, I doubt the ADL had a thing to do with either law.

It has to be the latter, if he doesn’t know the difference between NI and RoI. I can’t believe there’s a living human between the age of -what? ten?- and death that isn’t acutely aware of the the difference between the two.

I don’t usually get all gushy at stuff. Neither does my friend Beck or my boss. In the thread about homeless people in the Pit I commented a bit about a trip we took to Amsterdam last spring. We all went to the Anne Frank house. All of us were deeply moved by it.

My boss (a former Marine) and I ran into an old women while taking a train from germany to france about 2 years ago. She asked us in english “are you American soldiers?”. We told her I was and my boss (Bill for that is not his name) was a retired marine. She thanked us both because she said the allied forces freed her family from Dachua. I guess the OP thinks that she was a plant sent to fool us about the real truth.

…and that the Turner Diaries are an example of prophecy. :rolleyes:

Allan,

I don’t know if you realize how utterly silly and insulting your thesis is to those of us who actually have relatives who were killed in the Holocaust and who personally know survivors. (And, by the way, it wasn’t all done with gas chambers; my relatives were apparently simply lined up and shot to death when the Nazis overran the Ukraine.)

:eek:

And the fun never ends.

They faked the Holocaust for the money? I can’t decide if that’s hateful, anti-climactic, or hysterical.

Thank you.

I do not argue that something did or did not happen. I do prove that crucial evidence that has been presented for the holocaust is an obvious hoax.

I have demonstrated that there are no bodies showing signs of gas poisoning that have been found, and not for lack of trying. So here, where we would expect evidence, there is none.

I have demonstrated that the only two gas chambers that are now in existence and accessible are hoaxes. Consider the implications of this. The holocaust authorities are lying. When I investigate the holocaust, I always came back to this irrefutable fact.

The other ‘evidence’ is the pictures of the dead and dying. I have shown that these deaths were due to typhus and not the deliberate actions of the Nazis. Here is a good link on that subject …

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-11-25-holocaust-archive_x.htm

which contains …

“Anne and Margot Frank died during a typhus epidemic that swept through Bergen-Belsen from February to April 1945, killing an estimated 35,000 people.”

Now, you can object that I haven’t proved it, because you do not accept what I have said at face value. I would say that I have proved it, but now you must convince yourself, by your own investigation, if what I have said is correct or not.

It is impossible for me to present any information that will overcome the years of conditioning that you have experienced. My hope is to pique your curiosity, to show you that there are some glaring discrepencies in the holocaust story, and to get you to INVESTIGATE YOURSELF.