That terminology was, as you characterize it, “so delicately put” by Sarah Palin, herself.
The reason why she was doing so badly with women in the CNN instathingamajeegie is that while there are a lot of women who do flirt their way to the top, or do that cutesy thing (a lá Eve’s Princess Precious), the vast majority of us have some self-respect. I am sure we all have some experience with the Princesses Preciouses at our own job/school/whatever and don’t take it very well when anyone tries to pull that off. That’s just not going to sit well with women.
I, for one, think that woman disgraced herself on that stage. She would have been better off pissing herself instead.
We had a woman vice president already, and although that was one hugely disastrous administration nobody would have called her anything short of intelligent and well-informed. Accepting to run on that ticket was her biggest mistake. I admire her and respect her even if she was on the wrong side of history. Palin hurt the chance of a woman in the white house more than she helped, IMHO.
You have circus, we’ll send bread.
My wife and I are the same way. You don’t see the normal comforting and affection from her. Cameras or not, I know my wife would hold on to that baby for dear life once she got it back into her arms, and she would kiss it, talk to it, check its diaper – all that normal stuff. Palin treats the baby like it’s made of plastic. She gets her picture taken with it, then hands it off.
And passing a baby off to a 7-year-old? That’s not right either – for the baby or for the 7-year-old.
FWIW, my local news did man-in-the-street interviews after the debate, and one respondent (female) wasn’t sure if “Joe Sixpack” was a reference to beer containers or abdominal muscles.
So it may not have been the best possible sound byte choice.
Maryland. But, otherwise, yes.
To be charitable, we never see her when she’s off-camera, and she may feel that men don’t/won’t take her as seriously if she’s holding her baby in a professional setting. Who knows.
That could be, and I was one of the ones claiming sexism when people said that she shouldn’t be running when she has a baby at home, so I don’t want to seem hypocritical here. But it doesn’t seem natural, and when you consider that she’s running on an “everywoman” platform, she would do well to remember that women tend to hug their babies.
Really? I thought Mondale/Ferraro lost.
And that makes a difference, how? That’s just a small reason why I wouldn’t vote for the Pubs. I know my place in society. But I do have one vote to make a change. Two, if you count my wife. It’s all that “Joe six pack” has.
I actually agree with you completely. I was trying to be clever and ironic with my post. While I think Palin looked somewhat more intelligent than she looked in the Couric interview, and while I think she probably assuaged the fears of some conservatives, I also think she was a disgrace.
I know what a normal maternal interaction with a baby looks like, and I don’t see it with Palin.
I mostly listened to it on the radio, since it started at 6 PM out here. She had her talking points memorized, that I’ve got to give her, though I kept correcting her word usage. But whoever was pressing the talking point buttons on her remote hit the wrong one a few times. Yes everyone gives the answer they want to give, but the evasion is seldom so blatant and seemingly random as hers. It was amusing that she used the energy talking point just before the energy question was asked.
On NPR last night the good point was made that when she attacked Obama, Biden usually gave a very clear response correcting the distortion, and Palin never followed up to try to make her point another way. In some cases, like funding for the troops, she later repeated the point verbatim. When I debated I got told that it is as important to both listen to the opposition as to just make your points, since stating something already refuted as if there was no refutation looks stupid. She did that all night, Biden responded directly to her points much better.
When I was in college, a guy on my hall who was a chemistry major went to the final of an advanced physics class with some other guys as a joke. The only think he wrote on the paper was
F=ma.
He got five points. Good talking point, but reciting talking points doesn’t mean you understand the subject.
Frankly, that should matter only in Mother and Father of the Year voting. As a rule great parents don’t go into public life in the first place.
Ask any child of a politician, and they’ll likely tell you of times they took second place to the job. Barack Obama has said in interviews and speeches that he isn’t seeing much of his daughters these days.
I don’t put much stock in any of it. Never have.
It also strikes me that she has never said anything about Bristol and the redneck teen she is going to marry being in love. I’d have expected at least some gushing and talk of romance. I guess it is hard to be romantic with a shot gun in your hand.
It’s not just her; it’s Todd Palin as well (though I was reprimanded in another thread for finding his interactions with Trig odd).
But he’s not running as Mr. Hockey Mom. I’ll agree it is unfair to expect a higher level of affection from mothers than fathers, but she’s the one who made this a major part of her qualifications.
Mighty_Girl is referring to a different country. If my memory serves, she was in Costa Rica for a while.
It serves me well for not being clear enough. I am Dominican.
Palin referred to Joe Six-Pack first. Right at the beginning of the debate. But maybe she meant it with affection…
ETA: As Shayna pointed out. I should have previewed instead of sitting here with the window open for an hour…
I appeared that you were accusing CairoCarol of being judgmental when you said, “. . . as you so delicately put it. Judge much?” I thought it might be helpful to know that was not CairoCarol’s terminology, but Sarah Palin’s. Hence, CairoCarol doesn’t deserve the accusation of being the judgmental one in this case.