[QUOTE=lisacurl]
Dude, “racist redneck” is not an ethnic group. Some of us were raised by people who were ignorant, realized how repulsive it was, and have chosen not to perpetuate it. Through education and critical thinking, we’ve also learned the many disguises the mindset hides in… this thread offers several examples.
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Sorry, honey, but if you don’t understand the class and ethnic connotations of “redneck” you’re even stupider than I though you were.
[QUOTE=LonesomePolecat]
Sorry, honey, but if you don’t understand the class and ethnic connotations of “redneck” you’re even stupider than I though you were.
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The only stupid thing I’m doing is continuing to respond to you, but I can remedy that. 
[QUOTE=Lamar Mundane]
Of course it is, dumbass. Now I can see where you’re ignorance comes from, though. Gotta protect your own kind, no matter what. Stop snitchin’, and all that.
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Poor logic. I may be a redneck. I may be a shitheel. But I am no racist. I do, however, have many a family member that were and are. This makes me eminently qualified to comment on this matter.
So yes, there are members of my family that I out-and-out hate for their racism.
There’s nothing sick about that.
[QUOTE=Ogre]
Poor logic. I may be a redneck. I may be a shitheel. But I am no racist. I do, however, have many a family member that were and are. This makes me eminently qualified to comment on this matter.
So yes, there are members of my family that I out-and-out hate for their racism.
There’s nothing sick about that.
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Hey, stupid, he was talking to me.
[QUOTE=LonesomePolecat]
Hey, stupid, he was talking to me.
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Ah yes. I quoted the wrong post. Oopsy. In the interest of correcting my mistake, here it is as it should have appeared. Sorry, Lamar. You’re still an idiot, Polecat.
[QUOTE=thirdwarning]
I agree with you about “what they were charged with”. But you might want to go back and read the whole thread and get the rest of the information yourself before you form this particular opinion. I came in here basically only knowing about the noose and the last beating, although I did hear from Michael Savage that there had been something else. Not that I put much stock in Michael Savage, but I wanted to see what he was on about. But what I’ve read here and from the cites posted tells me that the version you’re talking about isn’t any more correct than the one in your last paragraph.
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I’m not advancing a version of events. I’m talking about the decisions authorities made. Other race-related incidents related to this high school stuff were handled differently. Now, for all I know, those could have been the appropriate decisions–not all potentially-criminal activity should result charges being brought, especially among teens in difficult, provocative situations. One might argue (easilly!) that they could have found a far better non-prosecutorial way to handle them than they did, but that’s a side point. What concerns me is that after the black youths attacked the boy, things seemed to change and a “throw the book at them” strategy appears to have been used.
I confess that a lot of it, for me, comes down to the original murder charge. I do not believe that six people seriously intent on murdering a 7th unarmed person would fail so utterly. Fail so utterly that the injured person was able to engage in social activities later. Sure, a tennis shoe, used to kick the everliving shit out of someone, could be lethal. It’s nothing I’d want to endure. But it’s hard to imagine myself being convinced that the original charge was not overblown given the outcome. Maybe the prosecutor had other evidence I’m not aware of, or was one hell of a silver-tongued devil.
I also registered my disappointment that in many media accounts, they describe only two events: the non-violent (although symbolically charged) hanging of nooses, and the violent attack by black youths. The truth is–and this has been established in other posts on this thread–other relevant events happened in the interim. I think some people who read those accounts will have a poorer understanding of why people’s dander is up.
[QUOTE=LonesomePolecat]
Yes, pretty much. The main purpose of this little exercise is to demonize white people.
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In fairness, though, you say that whenever a non-white person does anything at all. Such as respiration. Or cellular division.
[QUOTE=gytalf2000]
Now I need to get my mind on something else… I think I will go read a book or something!
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Excellent! While! You’re! at it! Perhaps! you can learn! some other form! of punctuation!!!
Anything more would be too much to ask, I suspect.
[QUOTE=Lamar Mundane]
Thanks for your brilliant fact-free analysis from 1500 miles away. You go right ahead defending the rights of the Ku Klux Klan to drive around a group of black people with nooses prominently displayed. Nothing more than free speech to your white ass.
Redneck.
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Listen closely friend…
You don’t like it. I don’t like it. I’d guess no one on the SDMB likes it, but the KKK is the quintessential definition of the need for free speech. The more repugnant the speech, the more freedom it requires.
Though the name calling thing, I must say… Spot on! Putting a redneck label on a kid from the South Side of Chicago. Way to go! :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=buttonjockey308]
Listen closely friend…
You don’t like it. I don’t like it. I’d guess no one on the SDMB likes it, but the KKK is the quintessential definition of the need for free speech. The more repugnant the speech, the more freedom it requires.
Though the name calling thing, I must say… Spot on! Putting a redneck label on a kid from the South Side of Chicago. Way to go! :rolleyes:
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You have no idea of the actual definition of freedom of speech if you think displaying nooses in front of a crowd of black people is an example. Read a book. One with words, preferably.
Bail was denied today for Mychal Bell:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20909145/?GT1=10357
Serious side question that may sound like a joke but isn’t- is anyone primed to take over the Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton roles in this type of event, once those two get too old to do so?
And if anyone wants to explain the whole “don’t spend money in the town” deal, that would be great.
[QUOTE=danceswithcats]
I wouldn’t say that whites are easier to intimidate, it’s just that reverse discrimination has become an accepted practice. Were someone to launch the National Association for the Advancement of White People, the United White College Fund, or any other pro-white foundation, there would be cries of racism left and right.
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bolding mine and pet peeve alert
Honey, is that you?
There is no such thing as “reverse” discrimination. There is just discrimination of some against others. And the way US culture stands, for a little while longer at least, everything is still pretty much weighted toward the advancement of white people. This changes as minority classes advance and whitey is becoming a higher percentage of the underclass. Classism sucks, too.
/pet peeve
[QUOTE=LonesomePolecat]
Well, I’m certainly not the only one who sees the problem.
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Do you think that article proved your statement, that white people are more easily intimidated than Latinos? It doesn’t. It proves that white people are really good at whining. Your post is my cite.
Yes, so sorry, but if you’re going to make outrageous claims, like White America is terrified of black people and is easily intimidated, you’re going to need more than just “look around you.” Because I don’t see what you see when I look around. So your non-scientific, completely anecdotal, and overly sweeping response is insufficient. I’m not afraid of being tagged as a racist any more than I’m afraid of being tagged with any other slur. No one likes to be called names or accused of hurting other people, and accusations of racism are no different.
Also, really, LonesomePolecat, do you think hanging nooses in the White Tree was anything other than a symbolic threat of racially motivated murder? Do you think the school was wrong not to censure the students who did it? And if it were you who was being directly intimidated by blatant race baiting, would you be the bigger man and not deal out an ass kicking if you had the opportunity? I’m seriously interested in your answers to these questions.
[QUOTE=DianaG]
Excellent! While! You’re! at it! Perhaps! you can learn! some other form! of punctuation!!!
Anything more would be too much to ask, I suspect.
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Aarrgghh! They’re back! I thought I could control them… but I! Just! Can’t!
Sorry, I couldn’t resist doing that. Now I shall slink away…
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Serious side question that may sound like a joke but isn’t- is anyone primed to take over the Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton roles in this type of event, once those two get too old to do so?
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My hope is that intelligent persons who can inspire black youth to seek and achieve excellence will replace those two gadflies.
[QUOTE=Miller]
In fairness, though, you say that whenever a non-white person does anything at all. Such as respiration. Or cellular division.
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Well, actually, no. It’s just seems that way to you because, like most liberal eunuchs, you don’t have the balls to deal honestly with the subject of black racism.
[QUOTE=Lonesome Polecat]
Because the main point of the demonstrations was to promote hatred towards white people.
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Do have any actual evidence for this?
The black people hung nooses in the “black” trees.
[QUOTE=olivesmarch4th]
Do have any actual evidence for this?
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Do you have any “actual evidence” for your views of the subject?