I’m taping this, the second episode, to watch tomorrow, but here is the thread in case someone else can start the discussion.
I watched it, but I probably won’t next week. It’s just way too confusing to me. I can’'t keep track of all the flashbacks and remember them from week to week in order to piece together what happened. Didn’t like that they just dropped the exposure in the newspaper article after such a cliched and half ass threat.
Why doesn’t the teenager ask someone else besides the robber what happened?
I’m just frustrated that they give so little information about the hostage/robbery each week when supposedly the story is about the relationships formed afterwards. I get enough doled out info on Lost.
I’m not sure how much longer the show will keep my attention, either. Almost nothing new about the standoff was revealed last night. We saw the first 45 seconds of the robbery, and that’s about it.
They’ve got 50 more hours of stuff to reveal, and they’d better get to it. If the second episode is like the rest, I don’t think I can take such slow-moving development.
I agree with cheese and aerodave. It barely kept my attention.
I thought the twist with the daughter was interesting - how she called 911 and that was the beginning of the screw-up.
The confusion kinda worked for me. It was actually less confusing than the first episode.
The prosecutor’s reaction of “you have a gambling problem? how dare you not tell me!” orwhatever she said was irrational and/or weak writing.
The guy is getting legitimately screwed in a situation completely unrelated to that. He tells her what’s up, and she decides to help him (she was the one to put forth the “I’ll back you up” stuff)… he was under no obligation to tell her every detail of his life that was completely unrelated - I mean, why would it come up, or matter? - and yet she acted as if he committed some horrible act or something.
Either A) She’s irrational, B) She’s perfectly rational, decides that she really isn’t comfortable with the situation, and grabs onto the gambling thing as a way to try to take the moral high ground and storm out - but I doubt a show of this nature is going to give us subtle and complex motivations like that, or C) weak writing to create a conflict.
I liked this episode just as much as I liked the first one. I have no problem following/keeping track of everything, the brief flashback didn’t bother me at all, and I fully intend to see the season out. Guess I’m in the minority.
I was surprised to see Jeremy murder the bank robber. I understand his motivation, but that’s a huge – HUGE – line for a doctor to cross. I just hope the guy really is dead, and that they don’t start the next episode with him having been saved.
At one point his gambling problem endangered the lives of fellow officers (but the details of what happened haven’t been shared with the audience yet). Now he’s publically criticizing the department for endangering the lives of hostages, and no self-respecting reporter would fail to discover that part of his history – which would affect his credibility. And since Kathryn is publically supporting him, I think it’s entirely realistic for her to expect to know any information that might damage their “case.”
I also didn’t like the lack of reveal of the robbery, there’s 52 hours of hostage time and if they are going to drag it out with barely and hour shown in each episode this will drag on for at least two seasons. Maybe that’s the plan but they will likely loose viewer interest that way.
I didn’t watch the second episode. There are too many characters for me to keep track of and care about. Also, except for Foote and the bank manager, they’re all young and hot, which usually means there’s gonna be manufactured sexual tension and things will get soapy.
My husband and I usually watch TV together. Last night I watched “The Nine” and he went to sleep.
He had the right idea.
This show just isn’t holding my interest. Like “Lost,” it’s a prolonged tease, but unlike “Lost,” it’s not a sufficiently intriguing tease for me to continue playing along.
I said this in the thread for the first episode, but it feels like the balance is off. Usually a story like this would spend all its time on the robbery, with a small amount of resolution afterwards. In this case however, they’re spending all their time on resolution.
The comparisons to Lost are interesting. In Lost, some people don’t like flashbacks because they often don’t really advance the plot. In the Nine, its the main story that isn’t advancing the plot :). In Lost, the central mysteries are exciting because the characters themselves are trying to figure them out and having adventures etc. In the Nine, the central mystery of what happened in the back is just contrived, and the characters don’t share in it. They all pretty much know what happened; the narrative just isn’t showing it to us.
And I’m out.
I barely made it halfway through the second episode, and was fading fast.
It just wasn’t holding my interest.
I have too much real-life stuff going on right now, and I need some mindless fluff like Earl and The Office. I don’t want to have to think too much. I’ll save that for Lost.
I still like it…and I’ve never watched Lost, so there is apparently lots of room in my brain for new characters and situations. I’m not sure the robber died…I thought they said he suffered a heart attack…did he really die, or did they save him? I ran to the bathroom at the wrong moment.
The doctor dosed him with something to make his heart stop, so presumably he’s dead.
I liked it, too, and I didn’t think it was hard to follow. The hard part is staying engaged in so many plot lines at once. I would dearly love this to be a one-season show, and I hope they’re plotting it that way. If it drags out too much, it could be a real waste.
Was that not scandalous? I was amazed. That was such a calculated violation of the Hippocratic Oath. It’s also the first thing about Jeremy that I’ve found interesting–he seems clueless usually, and he’s an unappealing combo of sad-sack and golden boy–so I would like to see something come of it.
One of the most interesting things to me is that it seems like some of the hostages actually like, or at least have some kind of sympathy for, the surviving bank robber. That makes me curious about what happened in there.
I’m following it, and still interested enough to keep watching. I’m especially intrigued by the teenage girl and her conversations with the inmate.
I’ve never seen this show, but I was amused by the thread title. Am I the only one who noticed: The Nine 10/11?
I, too, enjoyed this episode as much as the first. I have no problem following the characters or storylines, and I enjoy the flashbacks. Obviously all of these people changed dramatically while spending two days as hostages. I like the twist on this in that the characters all know exactly what happened inside there–no mystery to them. But the viewer has no idea, and the flashbacks are little pieces of the puzzle. But not an infuriating, frustrating puzzle like on Lost . At least to me, anyway.
It’s keeping my interest, and I’ll continue watching.
Oh, and I liked the ending. At first I thought the doc changed his mind about injecting the drug, and then all of a sudden he did. I was like “Dude. Has balls.” Must’ve grown them while in the bank. In real life it would be unethical to find joy in a healthcare setting murder. But it’s a TV show, so I’m allowed to smile at it.
The black girl is lying about not remembering, right? She remembers exactly what happened. I guess Randall sexually assaulted her or something, and the brother stopped it? I guess the brother turned over a new leaf during the standoff. That’s why none of the hostages seem too pissed at him. All you hear them talk about is their hatred of Randall Reese.
A show like this has little chance of being good in the American TV market. Probably the same deal with Lost.
The goal in the US market is just to keep stringing people along, getting approved for the next season, then shutting down when you don’t. They don’t try to tell a complete story, with a concrete end. I see Lost going the same way as X-files, and this show could end up going the same way.
I wish shows would set out with the idea of telling a complete story in a set amount of time. Then they could worry about telling the story more than keeping people hooked by just making it up as they go along. The only show I’m aware of, in the US market, that actually did this was Babylon 5.
I don’t think she remembers - I thought we were supposed to get the impression that seeing 911 (as the last dialed number I guess) on the phone stirred up a memory for her, that she was shocked by.
BTW - the brother that died, he was the reluctant one who wanted to call it off, right? The one currently on trial is the one who was the driving force behind the whole thing.