So if a baby dies, the family is perfectly within their rights to invite you to dinner and serve the child on a bed of wild rice as the main course, with baby peas, carrots and corn on the side?
Sorry, I don’t like corn… can I have beets instead? 
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
If anyone had defiled my son’s body in anyway after he died, I’m pretty sure my reaction would be to try to kill that person.
What ever happened to respect?
Wow, reaching much? You’re trying to compare this to baby munching?
Look, aside from the fact that it’s probably not good for you, who exactly would be hurt by eating a dead baby?
Hell, don’t some cultures do exactly this as an expression of love? Is it alien to our western culture? Heck yeah! Someone from our culture would almost certainly have something wrong with them in the head to actually want to do this. But would you judge the aborigine cultures that do practice eating of dead loved ones in the same way? Heck I find the idea of eating the placenta nearly as repugnant, and yet a lot of weird people do it.
What I’m saying is that having sex with a corpse is a cultural taboo. Coupled with the fact that the only hurt is emotional and that no threat is implied or overtly stated, 7 years in jail is disproportionate to the crime.
I contend that having sex with a corpse IS a crime as usually the corpse does not belong to the person doing the deed. But it’s akin to damaging property, NOT the actual rape of a living person.
The idea of necrophilia is repugnant to the majority of us, and this seems like a lashing out of our emotions, rather than something we have reasoned ourselves into.
Again, mandatory psychological help, a fine and probation and possible jail time for repeat offenders would possibly benefit society. Throwing such a person in jail for nearly a decade won’t serve our society in any way.
As to what I would do if such a thing were to happen to say my mother’s body… I would be upset, naturally, and a lawsuit would be coming to anyone I think might be responsible, but I would want the perp to be helped not thrown in jail for years for doing something to my mom’s empty shell.
So it’s honor killings now? Is that the way you want to go? Let’s execute anyone who doesn’t show us respect! Yeah, that sounds like a logical, reasonable ideal to base our laws on :rolleyes:
Maybe not you. It certainly upset me and my youngest brother.
Oh bite me, that’s not what I said, read and comprehend or don’t bother quoting me ya dink.
Dink. I’m so insulted. Good one.
I understand that killing the person would be a natural reaction to have. I assumed you then supported ridiculously overkill punishments for the perp. Did I assume incorrectly?
The sentence is not **ridiculously overkill **IMHO. Crimes like necrophilia deserve harsh penalties. Who the hell wakes up and thinks that they should go have sex with a dead person?
FarmerChick didn’t say anything about honor killings or executions for not showing respect.
I don’t particularly like violence, but I’m prepared to use it if I have to. (I’m expected to, being a soldier and all). If god forbid my wife died and I somehow caught you screwing the corpse I’d kill you before I knew what I was doing…and I managed to not go into a full Klingon/Luskan/Worf/Ka D’Argo Bloodrage I’d damn sure cripple you.
…and i’d bet that I wouldn’t be charged with beating you up (or killing you as long as I can convince a jury that I was maddened with rage) .
You might disagree, and I wouldn’t wish this on you, but if a family member of yours dies and some whacko fucks their corpse feel free to speak to the court on their behalf because jail time is too cruel for such a thing. I expect the judge will probably laugh, but hey, if you’re not upset about it, go for it.
My question is WHY. Why do they deserve harsh penalties? Outside of it being taboo in our society?
I just don’t understand. I’ve seen the same type of visceral reaction to tomb stone defacing, but we don’t throw people in jail for years for that. What physical/psychological damage do you think your son will have to endure once he is dead?
Again, I think this a position people take based solely on emotion. Take a broader perspective, a more dispassionate, reasoned look at the actual crime and who and how it hurts. Can you still say that this deserves to lock someone away for years?
Someone with a severe, IMO, mental disorder. Someone who deserves psychological evaluation and treatment, not years of confinement in general population.
That’s what it sounded like. I suspect she mentioned “respect” before deep down she knows that’s all she has. It’s an emotional damage done to her/her family. That is all. What’s so different about this and say a Muslim family who discovers her daughter had sex outside of marriage and should die for it? To them, this fact is just as much a show of disrespect, and that is their ONLY reasons to wish harm on the individual.
I doubt it. Most soldiers don’t see much in the way of combatives. I think I’d have you on the ground with a broken jaw and dislocated shoulder before you knew what hit you. Not that that matters any, and not that I would be having sex with your dead wife (Ick!)
I think a plea for temporary insanity would fly. Which again, is shocking to me. Sex with a slab of meat and actually slaying a human being and apparently you think the former is worse than the latter. It boggles my mind.
I probably wouldn’t say anything as long as the judge doesn’t sentence him to years in jail. I would suggest forced psychological help and a fine maybe a week in jail to get the point accross that this is unacceptable behaviour. I’m sure my dead mother didn’t feel anything. The only issue is my feelings and those of my family.
Some things are just so abhorrent that they cannot be allowed in our society. We claim to be the superior race, but some of the shit people do to each other not even animals do. This is one of those things IMHO.
Are you sure animals don’t do this? I wouldn’t put it past some of them 
Also, don’t you see that this is exactly how some other cultures think and this is exactly their “excuse” for doing truly terrible things like honor killings, religious persecution, “morality” crimes? How many times have we heard the same excuse when such truly abominable things occur? “homosexuality/sex outside marriage/atheism/religion – It is abhorrent to us and our culture! So we killed him”
I understand that this is not something we should tolerate and should be punished. But I don’t understand how society is served by locking up a sick person in jail for a crime that is only damaging to our emotions. Help the person. That is what we “enlightened” people should do, IMHO.
Where in the linked article does it state that the accused has ASKED for treatment? All I read was excuses for his behavior and two shrinks that say he needs therapy. BUT, and it’s a big but, if this sick fuck doesn’t think he needs or wants therapy, it doesn’t matter what you or me or the judge says, nothing will help him. So yeah, 7 years for him is OK by me.
Show me one animal that does this? Besides man.
Honour killing, religious persecution, “morality” crimes etc. are a totally different discussion. To even try to tie them in with this is ridiculous.
Since when does the accused have to ask for treatment for it to be a viable sentence?
I’d be okay with a ruling of “sentenced to <whatever the maximum punishment is for vandalism> OR you can admit yourself for treatment, your choice.” Second offense, mandatory psych lockup. YMMV, obviously.
The other side of the coin is that this guy doesn’t realize he needs psychiatric treatment.
This is a completely irrelevant hijack, since the two situations are inequitable, but are you asking for animals that have sex with other dead animals? Wiki provides a good starting point, and the references in the article can serve as cites for you (because, frankly, googling for “animal necrophilia” isn’t something I feel like doing right now). Hell, Davian behavior was apparently first observed in squirrels.
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I can’t think of any. I just wouldn’t be surprised if it did happen.
How is it ridiculous? It’s very similar. In those cases too the “crime” hurts no one, except the sensibilities of that particular culture and/or the “honor” or feelings of the families/individuals involved.
Besides, If it wasn’t for these guys we might not have some pop-culture goodies like vampires and other horror genre memes, and then where would we be?!
atomicbadgerrace I stand corrected.
I have to go out, so I can’t continue this discussion now, suffice to say tho, I disagree with both atomicbadgerrace and Kinthalis positions.
edited to finish… stoopid cat hit my arm before I was done! :smack: