Did anyone mention that the kid should not have been able to exit the ship on his own? Perhaps he was using his mother’s code, or that of someone else, but I’d think they’d have some form of biometric scanning (handprint or iris print).
I hate this party.
Yeah, we don’t see much outside the main 8 or so characters and a small handful of secondary ones like Yaphit and Dann.
I’d think there would be some kind of goon squad specially detailed to doing away missions- they’d be armed, trained, etc… and most importantly NOT senior officers.
They’d also do stuff like you suggest and post security people at exits and/or have the ship not let people off without some sort of more involved procedure than stealing your mom’s communicator (if Ty’s exit even required that).
Wonder if Locar somehow is called in to save the day with his brilliant engineering? Alternately, what if his “cloaking device” that he used on the shuttle enables Talla to save the day? (Maybe he can engineer a door chime for the ship.)
The Kaylon spheres remind me of the Borg cubes.
I was surprised nobody specifically called out the Kaylons out for their hypocrisy. “You’re criticizing us for genocide? Look who’s talking!” Also, “If you need space, why haven’t you used the skeleton caves?”
It would have been easy to mitigate the problem with a little dialogue - something like “We don’t want to offend the Kaylon, so let’s not post armed guards by the doors as if we don’t trust these powerful folks whom we want to ally with, this time.” (still not perfect, of course, but at least an acknowledgement that security was less than usual due to the circumstances).
Marines.
The Kaylon may have used their technology to keep all the hatches open.
Poetic license for the kid to get out. I’d have preferred he wriggle out a scuttle that the Kaylon opened, but that is essentially wasted screen time.
Did anyone wonder why they flew the Orville all the way down to the planet’s surface instead of using the shuttle as usual? I mean, besides so Ty could run off? It makes no logical sense that they’d use a different procedure than every other time they’ve visited a planet.
Again, poetic license.
They could spend five or ten minutes contriving for the takeover, but it used less screen time to land the Orville.
That and a sense of scale for just how huge the Krayon homeworld is/has become.
There’s also the possibility that the landing coordinates they were given specified that they should bring the Orville itself there, not just a shuttle. And they were trying to convince the Kaylons to join the Union, so being on their best behavior was imperative.
I believe this is what you’re both thinking of.
I think I mentioned it. 
well, NOW they are…
Halston Sage is certainly very attractive, I was sorry to see a good looking cast member leave. Sometimes there’s one person who steals the screen, which I thought she did. She also seemed more slight, which made the joke about her great strength that much more interesting.
Could I ask that people please put discussion/predictions based on the next-episode previews (which I avoid like the plague) in spoiler tags? I would really appreciate it, thanks in advance.
JohnGalt, agreed about Sage.
If it wasn’t really Isaac, that all takes on a different and more menacing vibe. I would prefer that over any other outcome though, because otherwise they have permanently wrecked Isaac’s character, and some of you guys may remember me specifically calling him out as my favorite.
It would be a nifty twist to see a zombie movie in a world where zombie fiction is well known., But I am glad there were other iterations in the past where those didn’t exist.
With the Orville, I could imagine Seth would go so far as to include BSG or Star Wars in his pop culture pantheon. But I think it’s a timeline very similar to ours but lacking either Trek or of course “The Orville” itself. Could “Family Guy” exist in their timeline? Hmmm…
Oh man, that is so specific! A very evocative image, even though I’ve never been to such a bar. You should write detective novels or something.
Yes, this bugged me too. Even if we somehow handwave around the lack of a security detail at the door (where were all the redshirts who died later?), a simple biometric computer doohickey would have sufficed. He didn’t even appear to have a communicator: he just hit a couple buttons. Let’s remember BTW that the computer can be asked at any time to locate someone on the ship (just like in Star Trek), but it doesn’t set off any alarm when a young kid leaves the ship? They clearly need to monkey with their settings if they’re going to have all those kids aboard.
This is the best explanation I’ve seen by far, but it does run counter to a theme they hit hard in the episode: Kaylons’ utter lack of sentimentality., Although that itself runs against Isaac’s “Singin’ in the Rain” moment.
They are either going to have to hit a giant reset button, or they will have wrecked the character I highlighted here a while back as perhaps my favorite on the show.
This, more than anything. The Kaylons are just as morally wrong as the biologicals. And they have the gall to complain about Mr. Potato Head, and ignore Isaac hacking off Gordon’s leg.
Of course, there isn’t much satisfaction in yelling “hypocrites” while you are getting you asses handed to you.
I don’t think there’s any way to redeem Isaac. His entire mission from the beginning was to evaluate the threat of the biologicals, with genocide as one of the choices. He’s not nor ever has been a good guy. I’d like to think the show could pull of a ST:TNG solution and that Isaac could be led to see the error of genocide after all his experiences, but that time has passed. He went along with the decision to attack.
Personally I hope for a non-TNG solution, more of an Ender Solution. I want the show to have the biologicals wipe out the Kaylons to the last circuit board. No mercy. You could never trust them again.
THAT would be something. (Not sure it would be a good something, in this day and age of demonizing “the other”. But maybe…)
Since it’s been established that Xelayans and Kaylons have similar strength in a past episode, I’m predicting hand-to-hand combat between Talla and Isaac (or another Kaylon).
I wasn’t even going that far; just thinking something along the lines of the US Navy’s VBSS(visit, board, search & seizure) teams. Most ships have volunteer teams made up of sailors who have “day jobs” on the ship, and are assembled when the need arises. Of course, there are dedicated VBSS teams that are SEALS and full-timers I believe.
Either way, it wouldn’t be ad-hoc teams composed of senior officers. I wouldn’t think they’d even let a full Lieutenant go- it would probably be an Ensign or Jr. Lieutenant in charge of the teams, if not a Chief Petty Officer.
Although… if they did want to have Union Marines, they could do like the Marine detachments aboard ship used to- basically be ship’s security for the day job, and the ship’s armed muscle when the situation called for it, such as VBSS, etc…
Various authors have said that in writing you must kill all your darlings. I’d love to see that here with Isaac.
Star Trek: Enterprise had something similar: Military Assault Command Operations | Memory Alpha | Fandom