Neither is that stuff about Prince Albert in a can, but kids still do it.
I like Voyager, but I have been rewatching based on a curated list of episodes I made (about 40% of the total, which is still quite a few) based on various sites’ ratings and top ten lists, as well as consulting Trekkie friends.
So true!
I was always easy pickings to use future time travelers to make fun of the present. STIV:TVH did it, the ST:Voy episode set in the then-present day did it. There are probably a lot more. They make fun of our viewer’s time in ways they’ll never make fun of the turn of the 19th century with Mark Twain. Nice to see The Orville didn’t go there.
I think I’ve found my new favorite episode. I really like how they handled every thing. Including hipster Talla. I like that they didn’t give closure by finding Laura in the history books and learning she’d become a famous pop singer. She was just…nothing special. She left “no relevant contribution”. Just like the majority of us all.
Dirty? No. Angry, sad, annoyed? Oh heavens yes! Voyager was so frikken stupid. It was like ST for eight year olds. Gilligan’s Island in Space. I can’t believe I stuck it out for all seven years. At least I learned my lesson and bailed early on Enterprise (and skipped Discovery completely).
Oh, I found Enterprise, with all its flaws, still better than the “preceding” canon, precisely because it was dirty. It felt more gritty, real, touchable than the overly sanitized TOS, SNG, DS9, Voy and most of the movies (except WoK, which I first saw while on acid and it was hilarious).
I don’t blame you, but the last two seasons (third and fourth) of Enterprise were actually not bad, IMO. Faint praise, I know. I thought there were some really good episodes near the end of the series. One thing that stood out to me is that T’Pol became a more fully developed and mature character instead of just a token Vulcan and eye candy for the “decontamination room” scenes. Remember those? (speaking of feeling dirty watching Star Trek!) I was kind of impressed with Blalock in the role and I’m disappointed she’s done relatively little on-screen work since then.
Interesting you say that. The stupid decontamination and catsuits were such blatant pandering they offended me, not with the sexism, but the fact they thought so little of their audience. ST fans don’t need T&A to watch. And being so obvious about it, sheesh.
7of9’s catsuit was stupid too. She could have reverted to normal clothes as the years went by (and even switched back to her real name), so it’s still pandering, but I must say that the episodes that featured “the women”, the Janeway-7-Torres-centric episodes, were generally the better episodes.
I’ve literally only seen one scene of Star Trek: Enterprise. I was flipping through channels, decided to check it out, and it was literally just two girls in t-shirts either rubbing oil on themselves or others. It appeared to serve no other purpose. It was so gratuitous that I thought “this show must be pretty devoid of substance if this is a thing” and never looked at it again.
Did that happen regularly?
I only remember the one time. But once was quite enough!
Hmm. What season and episode might that have been—you know, in case a guy wanted to check out the banality for himself?
I’ve watched that scene 100s of times, and I still can’t figure out the purpose of it. Adds nothing to the plot of the episode.
As much as I hate the scene, it is supposed to add to setting the universe.
The transporter will remove any harmful organisms that landing parties/away teams might bring back from a planet. It’s automatic by Kirk’s time. so no one remarks on it. Since Enterprise doesn’t use the transporter, they were trying to show that the intrepid space explorers were actually considering the risk of contamination, and were taking the necessary steps to remove the risk.
It was the manner of said decontamination that was insulting. They could have used something like the procedures in The Andromeda Strain, and that would have been sufficient. Or a bright light, like McCoy’s TOS “sterilite”. But no! They went full on soft core porn. All it needed was some boom-chacka-wow music. My eyes are still rolling at the ridiculousness of it, 18 years later.
If I were one of the actors asked to do that scene, I would have balked.
Thanks, but I just watched it another 50-60 times because of the link helpfully provided by DrDeth, and I’m still not getting it. I’ll study it more when I get home.
You have to embrace the distinction between the reason for the scene, and the excuse for the scene.
Still…the season and episode or even episode title would be so helpful in letting a person decide for themselves…
Well there’s nothing wrong with a little healthy decontamination I’d say.
I’m sorry if this has been discussed before, but I see that this thread is 22 pages long, and I am a little lazy, so there.
During the Battle for Sol (Kaylon v. Krill & Human), I noticed that all of the ships seemed to have their weapons facing (& firing) forward only. Am I mistaken?
Why not turrets?
It would be nice to think that but the ratings for Voyager went up significantly after Jeri Ryan joined the cast as 7of9.
A least T’Pol was no Gwen Demarco.
You obsess over crap like this, eh?