The Past 13 months

Warning: whining, self pity, and general grouchiness may be included in this post, but I don’t think there will be enough vitrol included to warrant a pit thread, but mods can feel free to move this if necessary.

Warning 2: this will most likely ramble a bit

About 13 months ago, the lovely and talented Mrs. S. and I converted our chapter 13 bankruptcy into a chapter 7. This was due to a series of medical issues that took the missus out of work for an extended period of time, and sent our finances into a tailspin. No ARM, no buying too much house, etc, just a ton of medical bills that piled up, and not enough money to pay them, along with our other debts. This is not something we are proud of, or like to mention to people, but it happened, and we are trying to move on from it.

As part of the bankruptcy, we returned the home we had purchased 6 years prior to the bank, and looked for rental and lease to own property. We found a wonderful home that was perfect for our needs and had a rent tag that we could handle, and moved. While this was not easy on any of us, it was especially tough on our daughter, who was being moved away from the group of friends she had grown up with (was 11 at the time). Things are good for the first few months.

Almost 3 months to the day after the move, I get laid off. While this was tough, and a major blow, unemployment combined with my wife’s income from her FT and PT jobs, plus cutting back on some other non-essentials means we can afford to stay. i’m also able to do some side work on my own to make some cash, and after 3 months off, I get a job offer. The offer is decent, base plus commission recruiting position with an established firm. It’s about a one-third drop in base pay, which I figured I could at least partially make up in commission. they don’t offer much in the way of benefits, but my wife carries those anyway, and there is really no room for advancement, but it’s a paycheck. Yeah for me, I’m back to work.

This would be great if the job was even close to what it was pitched to me being. Admittedly, the economy has played a major factor in the slowness, but at this point I am making minimal commissions, nowhere close to what I was told was realistic. Combined with the lack of benefits, lack of learning opportunity, and lack of advancement, it’s a miserable place, and I come to work each day hoping to be laid off. with the cost of my son being in daycare along with gas, I am actually making less than I was on unemployment.

But like I said, happy to have a job, we decide to pursue the option to buy on the house we had been renting. We contact the leasing agent and have her draw everything up, and we sign off and send it to her. this is November-ish. Come January, we have not heard from leasing agent, so we call her… she asks if we can send over the paperwork again, they moved offices and it seems as though it was lost in the move. It’s odd, but it does happen, so we send it over again. We follow up with her, and are assured that she recived it, and will be sending it to the homeowner. Yay… we now have 2 years to re-establish credit, save for a downpayment, etc.

February is mostly uneventful, save for the young miss’s 12th birthday, and things are generally well, although there are rumors of impending layoffs at Mrs. S’s work.

March comes, and rumors are true, but Mrs. S. is spared. two weeks later, around the 21st or so, second round of layoffs… and she’s okay, although employees across the board take a 10% paycut, and she has to move divisions. Could be much worse I suppose.

A few days letter, we receive a letter from the property owner stating his intention to sell the property we are currently leasing, and planned on eventually purchasing. We call the property management company that handles his property here (we are in Ohio, he is in Cali), and state our confusion, since we thought we were in contract to purchase. Our contact at the property management company seems unaware of this, and calls the owner. He claims to have never received the option to purchase, and due to him taking a bath in his real estate investments, has to liquidate… but he offers us the option to purchase the home first.

While this would be excellent, you may recall that we just came out of a bankruptcy about a year ago, and therefore cannot secure a mortgage loan. This was the freaking reason we decided to do the lease option in the first freaking place… but my wife had a plan… TBC

So here we are, needing to earn a fairly significant amount of money in short order, because we do not want to move. we love the house, love the neighborhood, love the community, young miss loves the schools, etc… wife decides that she will run a sale on her photography prints, and begins emailing like a woman possessed in order to make this happen. It’s only 40K prints she needs to sell, it’s possible. I am dubious, but hopeful. She has good stuff that people love, but no shop presence- everything is sold online.

In the 3 weeks or so since launch, it is just not happening. Mrs. S. is swinging from confident and hopeful to furious to depressed to the point where she just wants to drive away. I’m balancing many of the same feelings, along with my contempt for the group that I was sold by at my current job. Her volatile state, inability to sleep, and the changing weather is causing a flare up of her fibromyalgia and migraines, compunding her misery. Although we usually work very well together to keep each other’s emotions together, neither one of us is coping well, and we are having trouble finding other properties for rent in the school district that we can afford.

Last night, Young Miss emailed Mrs s. from my mom’s house, telling her that she was looking for houses for us, and found a foreclosed home that we could buy. She volunteered to chip in. It broke our hearts, because she is trying to stay so badly.

I guess the point of this all is that we are just having a lot of trouble coping right now, no matter how many positive thoughts we try to talk ourselves into. I know the people on this board (having lurked for a while now), are a smart and caring bunch, and I appreciate you leeting me ramble this out. if you can give any advice on how to deal, I’d sure appreciate it. If you know any investors that want to purchase this home, and lease option it to us, that would be damn nice too, haha.

Wish I could give you more advice than “Just hang in there,” but that’s all I’ve got. I’m sure someone with more experience will be along shortly with something solid.

It sounds like you’ve managed to survive a really unfortunate set of circumstances quite well. I hope something works out so that you can stay where you are.

GT

As in your 12-year-old daughter? :frowning: Ouch.

I’m sorry you’re going through so much. You make a life of singledom seem unbelievably carefree in contrast. 'fraid I’ve got nothing useful to offer, but I do hope things work out in time…

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As in your 12-year-old daughter? :frowning: Ouch.

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Yeah, that stung a bit. In one way, I feel like an awful parent for putting her through this, but on the other hand, I am very proud that she is taking that responsibility upon herself.

Anyway, we’re definitely hanging in and counting our blessings. There are some people on here who have been through much worse lately. I appreciate you fine people indulging me a little though.

You know, your current property should be a very good deal for a property investor - occupied by paying tenants who want to buy in the shorter term. Sounds like a win-win situation.

I’m sorry you’re having a rough go of it lately. 2008 was similarily bad for my family. My fiancee and I were both out of work for a total of 9 months between us and things got really dire.

We’ve been following Dave Ramsey’s Total Money Makeover Plan to get us straightened out and it’s been really great. It’s not a scam and you don’t even need to spend any money to do it. Just do some Google searches for Dave Ramsey and you’ll find all sorts of advice. Go to the libarary and check out his books and read them. Seriously…it’s good stuff.

From what you’ve told us, and from what I’ve heard Ramsey offer as advice to others in similar circumstances - what you have is an income problem. Duh, right? So what do you need to do? First, get on a written budget. Every dollar needs to have a purpose. It’s amazing how much extra dough you can scrape together if you do this. Go to a cash only system for groceries and other day to day expenses. Budget it out and once it’s gone, it’s gone. This will keep you from overspending and help you find some extra bucks in what you’re already making. Google “Cash Envelope System” and you’ll get some good info on doing this. We started doing this and it’s really helped us immensely.

Also, you both need to be looking for second jobs immediately. Delivering pizzas, waiting tables, anything at all to get your income up. You should also start looking for things to sell on eBay or Craigslist. It’s amazing what people will buy. Anything that you can part with, sell. Start piling up as much cash as you can to assist you in moving to a new place.

You can definitely get through this. I know you can. It’s going to be hard, but worth it in the long run. Feel free to PM me with any questions about Ramsey’s plan, and seriously - go find a copy of his book and read it.

Quartz- that is what we are thinking, but the owner is claiming he will take too much of a bath by selling to an investment group. I am trying my best not to be spiteful, but I will be interested to see how much of a bath he takes with the house sitting empty. There are a bunch of emtpy lots in the 'hood right now waiting to be built on as well, and builders are charging less for new than what he is asking for the home.

HelloNinja- sorry to hear about the bad year last year, it sounds like you have rebounded well!I will pick up the Ramsey book, one of my best friends recommended his system as well. We are really working to downsize our expenses all around, and following a written budget was one of the first steps we took. Cash only at the grocery store is a great idea!

The wife already works a second job, and I am interviewing for one as well, while also working on finishing my degree. We figure in two years when I am ready to graduate, we will have ourselves in a much better spot. Thanks for the advice and support!!

I think that it is WAY cool that your little one is trying. She must be amazingly smart.

Due, no small part, to your rearing.
Or, unless, you’re totally clueless, somebody did something right. :smiley:

She is a bright one, almost too bright for her own good, but a good kid. I think she is naturally curious and generally pretty perceptive, we have just tried to work to give her the tools to develop this.