The Sandman TV Show thread (See OP for spoiler policy)

FWIW in the comics he says “Time passes no more slowly for my kind then it does for yours”

Just got done watching. I thought it was awesome, probably my favorite recent series. Faithful to the source material without being a slave to it. Brilliantly cast—Dream himself, the Corinthian, Death, Lucifer, Fiddler’s Green in particular, but really, I thought the whole cast was so high level there hardly were any standout performances. ‘The Sound of Her Wings’ might be my favorite hour of TV since ‘The Ballad of Mad Sweeney’ (from another Gaiman derivative, American Gods, which I didn’t think held together in the end).

Those of us who read the comics when they came out were plenty confused then, too. I mean, it went on for over five years and almost 100 comics if you count the side plots and graphic novels.

A year or a bit more ago, I wrote to Neil Gaiman on Twitter saying how excited I was to see the Sandman episode where “the guy lives forever and Dream visits him every 100 years”.

He wrote me back to say they were filming it that week.

And I saw it tonight! It was great!

Whew…I was able to handle the main series well enough during the day. But i had to read Overture twice, and then again the other day to really get a grip on what happened.

Eps 2 and 3 moved me to tears so, Im actually hesitant now to move on to the next ep.

IM SO GLAD that Neil still loves his work and is enjoying working with it. Rather then a certain grumpy other writer who sneers at the entire medium of comics now.*

*Yes yes, I get it. I know how Alan was screwed by DC and how Marvel pissed him off, and how all the movies got it all wrong (With the exception apparently of the animated “For the Man Who Has Everything”

Yeah, it was!

I really had some reservations about when I saw the trailer, and was not sure about Tom Sturridge. He just looked a bit…off. But then I realized that everything Gaiman does is just a bit “off”, and that’s why we love him.

And of course, the show is awesome :smiley:

To me, Neil Gaiman is one of those writers you choose to read because of his “train of thought” style of writing, and enjoy the web of story yarns he weaves. He just has a certain flow when he tells his stories, and you either love it or you don’t.

And I always thought that this flow would be impossible to translate to a movie or series. I thought that before I watched American Gods, then Good Omens, and now with his Sandman adaptation.

And I’m glad to say that each time, I was wrong. They’re all awesome, and I can’t even pick a favorite. :grin:

I saw a silver ankh across a crowded park and said There she is! Total fanboy squee. The Beloved had to pause the show and look at me.

The actor quite well captured Death’s understated playfulness, her levelheadedness, her caring and general goodness, and the iron-hard edge that’s beneath all of it.

I was waiting to see Delirium. Hopefully, I’ll get a chance.

It works great for those that didn’t see it. I presume my wife was expecting Death to be like Dream, only even more gloomy. Kind of like the Discworld Death, only not funny.

They played it so cool by not telling us who she is. By the time Dream followed her to deaths, I was saying to my wife, “Isn’t it great that Death is this nice ‘person’ who guides people across the line?”

It really is. My favorite episode so far has been the sixth one(Sound of her Wings).

Its also not necessarily someone who ‘walks you across the line.’…I guess you may actually have meant what Neil says below… That was what I always thought. You die, get an encouraging word and she takes you (quite quickly) to wherever you’re going.

“You got what anyone gets. You got a lifetime.”
“There’s something you maybe oughta see.”
“I’ve met them all, and you know something…I think I liked you best.”

But Neil in an interview was saying that “the walk from where you died and where you’re going could be quite far and take a while to get there, and that She walks with you ALL THE WAY. And would’t it be lovely to have someone like her by your side the entire way?”

Also, I wonder if she ever tries to talk anyone from going to Hell? “You know, you don’t have to do this.”

I suspect that would be a bit fruitless.

Dunno why…but now I have in my head that cartoon where Bugs Bunny escorts a penguin all the way to the south pole.

Death: “Well, I said I’d get you here and here we are…Hoboken!!! Oooooh im dying!!”

I’ll never forget the end of Small Gods with Terry Pratchett. I won’t spoil it here, but it ends with a Death related scene and a human related scene that outshines anything I’ve read.

For me, it would be the discussion between Death and Susan in Hogfather.

Oh, and there was one point when Abel began talking that I thought Wait, are we actually going to have a House of Secrets episode?

Woulda been cool, but I guess time didn’t permit.

According to Gaiman’s mythology, she is not a person, or even some goddess of death. Simply put, she “is Death”. Therefore, she is not going to be talking anyone into or out of anything, or judging them.

I do wish they had changed the soccer/skateboard kid’s death, since he was so gaga at having met two mythical personages that he ran in front of a car.

I know you could be including this with that bit about “the whole cast” there, but I’d like to add that Desire was, y’know, perfect.

Well…she isn’t human, but she is an anthropomorphic PERSONification. You kind of make is sound like she doesn’t have agency, when its quite the opposite.

“You and your kind, bound by your idiotic rules…except for your sister, she’s a cold one. She does what she wants.” …

and she does, to an extent. She lets some run off and play ghost detective. Others she asks her brother to intervene for, because she liked them and she thinks they deserve better. Others she instructs on how to end their own lives when they haven’t thought of how to do it.

Eh? No, it’s exactly the same in both comic and TV, he’s running after a ball. He has no idea who they are.

I finished last night and my major takeaway is that I don’t remember what I read. I read the comics in book form over a decade ago and, other than the endless and a few dreams, didn’t remember any of the characters or how any of the plot points were resolved.

I guess that just means I can read them again and enjoy them all over.


In one of the later episodes, did a character have a photo of someone who died at the diner in an earlier episode? I missed the connection.

ETA I looked up the character names. It was a photo of Lucy. Maybe in Rose’s apartment.