But the usual suspects DID scream racism. The problem is that you are so wedded to your paint-by-numbers talking points that you never even bothered to check before pooping out another lazy drive-by.
Actually, I doubt it, because in my opinion, nothing Biden actually said is particularly deserving of the controversy, and no Republican has ever said anything similar and received criticism from me. Your argument is incredibly silly, not only because it’s basic premise, as I pointed out, was false, but also because the idea that all statements are equal, so somehow if I find one racist, I must find them all racist, is ridiculous.
Again, you ever going to let facts intrude into your little world. Bush called Obama articulate just last week. No one batted an eye or called him racist.
You really have no integrity at all, do you? The basic facts of this controversy are 100% backwards from your position, and yet you can’t even bring yourself to acknowledge them.
There is absolutely 0 evidence of that in your OP, so I have no reason to believe you on this one.
Your ability to lie is approaching Shodan’s level. Your OP mentions both this site AND all sorts of other venues, and the left in general. Except at the time you posted, this story was all over the liberal blogs, all of whom were condemning Biden. There seems to be no evidence that he was given a pass on the statement, even though, as I noted, I think he was grossly misrepresented.
No you weren’t. You had a preconceived belief, and you never allowed any contact with evidence or experience to change that belief. You posted basically to gloat, not to “see” anything.
Boohoo. Yes, “old, while Republicans” have historically been a class that has been picked on. :rolleyes: Phony martyrdom is so tiresome. And, could you give us some examples of “old, white Republicans” who have been savaged for comments along the same line as Biden’s?
If you want to castigate Biden then do so. I really don’t see what license you have to decide how outraged, Jesse Jackson or other members of SDMB should be.
Glad to know that you are now a mind reader, and you know better than I what my beliefs are. Please use your super powers and let me know who will win the big game this weekend so I can make some cash.
One last time. It’s hardly a newsflash that most of the posters here are left of center. Not a value judgment, just an obvious statement. There have to be 20 threads out there taking Bush to task, with many, perhaps most, valid. I was interested to see how this predominantly left site would treat a predominantly left guy, who said a series of pretty dumb, racist things. Got some discussion. Some of this:
“Not silent, but I can’t hear you above the sound of me masturbating?”
“Most Republicans didn’t seem to care that they were voting for a proven racist for Senator.”
“Is there anything else you are prepared to be wrong about today?”
“He has taken up Clothahump’s mantle from last year. He had three or four of these and then wised up.”
I am mystified that just pondering this has elicited less dialog and more venom.
This is the second time you have bade a boohoo comment about this one portion of my thread. Guess I need to address it.
Never said the old white Republicans were getting screwed.
Never said how outraged anyone should be.
ASKED how outraged (or not) left of center dopers were about this.
Note to self. "David Simmons" NOT outraged.
You seem to be missing the point that Bush himself has said an equivalent to what Biden said - and he was not taken to task for it.
I’d be the first to agree that there’s a left-wing bias on the boards, and i’d also say that that leads people to be biased in how they post on political issues. But really, you can’t say “Left-wingers would be harsher if a Republican did it!” when there appears to be a complete uncaring that Bush, the big guy himself, did it, and when people in this thread have in fact called Biden out on it.
Your theory of biases works in general. In this case it clearly doesn’t, and has been shown to not with an actual example. You’re perfectly free to have your opinion of these boards, and as I said i’m in partial agreement. But in this particular case? You’ve been proved wrong.
I don’t claim to know better than you: I claim to know when you are BSing us.
No you weren’t. Your OP isn’t an invitation to discussion. It’s been repeatedly pointed out to you that you were wrong on several counts, but instead of addressing that, you’ve quickly hopped on to keep changing the subject around.
Speaking of which: are you still defending your claim that your OP was ONLY about threads on this MB, given that its there in plain sight and its too late to edit it?
If you start a thread based on falsehoods and a bunch of clumsy premises, you can expect people not to take it all that well. Playing cute and innocent isn’t working out too well either, is it?
Excellent example of the use of “plausible deniability.”
Clearly a rhetorical question with no answer really expected.
Why should I be outraged? I might be embarassed for Biden, but outraged? That’s pretty over-the-top. As was posted by another, Biden isn’t a serious presidential candidate. He is a US Senator and one who his noted for talking way too much and giving unstudied commentary.
I’m missing the Big Hairy Ass Deal factor here. I didn’t think much about it went Trent Lott stepped on his own dick talking about what a wonderful guy Strom Thurmond was. It wasn’t Dem outrage that did him in. It was Pubbies pushing him under the bus so they could bring along slick, modern Bill Frist, noted kitten-skinner.
But there’s no place to push Biden, he’s got considerable credibility, but no pizzazz, plenty of steak but no sizzle. He’s not a leader, he sets no policy, and didn’t even say all that much.
Just out of curiosity, I went back and searched for the thread on Trent Lott’s gaffe at Strom Thurmond’s birthday party to see how much outrage it fomented at the time. As it turns out, the responses from the board’s lefties are surprisingly similar to this one. The pitchfork wielders are in low attendance, most of the liberals (including me) saw it more as thoughtless backslapping than intentional racism, there seems to be a general consensus that it was a dumb thing to say but not really that big a deal. There’s very little manufactured outrage. There are some meta-discussions about what the political ramifications might be for the pubs, but little if any self-righteous demamgoguery. We seem to be a pretty consistent group mind with this stuff.
Holy shit. This is the first I’m hearing about this, and I have to ask how this can possibly be an issue. For crying out loud, the guy says he’s the first mainstream African-American candidate, THEN THERE IS A PAUSE BIG ENOUGH TO DRIVE A TRUCK THROUGH, then he says he’s articulate and bright, etc.
Wow, no kidding. Just listened to it now for the first time, and the actual recording gives a completely different meaning from the transcript. It’s pretty clear that he didn’t intend “. . . who is articulate etc.” to refer to "African American. “First,” as Biden used it, had everything to do with ‘black mainstream Presidential candidate.’
I think the problem is that he uses “who is articulate. . .” It seems like, to get his meaning across better in print, he would have said:
OTOH, let’s not pretend like there wouldn’t be considerably more kvetching from this board and liberals in general if a conservative Republican had said the exact same thing. It’s perfectly natural: the people who would normally tend to get most upset about Biden’s quote tend to see him as more of an ally than a foe, so they’re more likely to believe him when he says ‘No, of course I didn’t mean it like that!’
The same would hold true if, say, a conservative senator said something similarly awkward/offensive about Christianity.
