The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

Yes, Trump is constantly demonstrating he is not a skilled politician. Real politicians know that you always have to be looking for that 51% that you need to win. So they step outside of their base and try to win over voters who aren’t automatically enthusiastic for them. Sometimes they’ll even distance themselves from their base in order to broaden their appeal.

Trump can’t do that. His rallies aren’t about winning people over to his side. He keeps going back to the same people he’s already won over. He bases his rallies around who will cheer for him the loudest.

And it’s hurting his re-election chances. He isn’t reached out to undecided voters. He’s not even shoring up his support among leaning voters.

I don’t see that happening. I don’t think we’ve ever had somebody who loves the attention he gets for being President like Trump does. He will never walk away from that voluntarily.

I predit if Trump loses in November, we’ll see three things happening in the last weeks of his Presidency before Biden’s inauguration.

  1. Trump will say the election was stolen and he really won. And he’ll try to have the election results overturned and have himself declared the winner.

  2. When he’s not trying to overturn the 2020 election, he’ll be talking about 2024. He’ll be vowing he’ll return and he’ll announce his candidacy before even leaving office.

  3. He will issue himself a general pardon. And probably the members of his family. Everyone else in his administration may or may not get a pardon based on how much Trump blames them for his defeat and his worries about how much dirt they have on him.

Ford's Pardon of Nixon

By the President of the United States of America a Proclamation

Richard Nixon became the thirty-seventh President of the United States on January 20, 1969 and was reelected in 1972 for a second term by the electors of forty-nine of the fifty states. His term in office continued until his resignation on August 9, 1974.

Pursuant to resolutions of the House of Representatives, its Committee on the Judiciary conducted an inquiry and investigation on the impeachment of the President extending over more than eight months. The hearings of the Committee and its deliberations, which received wide national publicity over television, radio, and in printed media, resulted in votes adverse to Richard Nixon on recommended Articles of Impeachment.

As a result of certain acts or omissions occurring before his resignation from the Office of President, Richard Nixon has become liable to possible indictment and trial for offenses against the United States. Whether or not he shall be so prosecuted depends on findings of the appropriate grand jury and on the discretion of the authorized prosecutor. Should an indictment ensue, the accused shall then be entitled to a fair trial by an impartial jury, as guaranteed to every individual by the Constitution.

It is believed that a trial of Richard Nixon, if it became necessary, could not fairly begin until a year or more has elapsed. In the meantime, the tranquility to which this nation has been restored by the events of recent weeks could be irreparably lost by the prospects of bringing to trial a former President of the United States. The prospects of such trial will cause prolonged and divisive debate over the propriety of exposing to further punishment and degradation a man who has already paid the unprecedented penalty of relinquishing the highest elective office of the United States.

Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this eighth day of September, in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and seventy-four, and of the Independence of the United States of America the one hundred and ninety-ninth.

GERALD R. FORD

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Note how it is a blanket pardon covering everything Nixon did or may have done. If such a pardon were issued for the Kumquat, then everything he has done under color of authority may be perceived as covered by the pardon, hence, no action he executed while executive could be specifically construed as known to be legal.

Which could extend to his actual pardons of individuals. If he is pardoned for everything, then everything he did is suspect and subject to reversal (including the pardons he himself issued, and perhaps even his orderly transfer of power [resignation]). Hopefully, whosoever would issue a pardon upon him would be to stupid to comprehend this.

I am becoming less concerned about this possibility.

It probably still will happen, but it will be the losing ramblings of a feckless whiner that are ignored by anyone who matters, anyone who could make it an issue.

He’s burning his bridges and showing his true colors. He still has supporters in the populace, but most of the actual functionaries of government are about done with him.

I really don’t think that he has the support of the military, something he would need if he really planned on pulling off this coup.

Trump will probably try to pull of his own coup. With out the aid of the military. “Fake News, rigged election, I’m still President, and am not leaving!!!”.

He would then be escorted out by the SS (very fitting), whether or not they drop him off at Bethesda, Trump Tower or Mar-a-Lago is up for grabs. I just wish they would dump him and his family on the streets of DC to fend for themselves.

I’m not sure I follow. You note that Nixon received that blanket pardon; what were the ramifications that time? The pardons and executive orders and so on that got issued by Nixon — did any get reversed after that pardon? Did any get so much as a hint of side-eye as a result of that pardon?

Trump’s response to the Russian bounty scandal is to deny that he knew about it…not that it didn’t happen.

I’m not sure that’s an improvement. Which is worse: that he knew, and did nothing? Or that it happened but no one thought they should tell him?

It’s very sad.

Trump was told, but did nothing?

  • or
    They didn’t tell him because of his loud mouth and are afraid of what he WOULD do. Giving up operatives that found out about it.

But knowing Trumps relationship to Putin, I suspect he would do nothing. Or was worried about planning his next rally.

I am not following what you’re saying. Why would a pardon reverse any actions a President took while in office?

He was briefed. He then tried to get Russia into the G7.

I agree that any attempts by Trump to overturn the election will fail. He’ll complain quite loudly but he lacks the capabilities to actually do anything about it. The way his mind works, he’ll do the whining and then expect somebody else to actually do the work of keeping him in power. And he’ll find nobody else wants him to stay.

Which will be a fitting coda to his presidency; he can end four years of failing to do the job with a failed attempt to stage a coup.

Just start bringing him cold McDonald’s and he’ll be right out of there.

I’m sure a half dozen supporters will show up with MAGA hats and AK-47’s.

They will then wet their pants and beg to go home once they are confronted by Biden’s secret service detail.

I am saying that accepting a pardon constitutes an admission of guilt, which means that if Individual-ONE were to be pardoned in that way, he would be admitting to unspecified illegal acts, so everything he did could be treated as the act of a criminal (illegal) and easily reversed. His signature on legislation could be seen as invalid, allowing Biden to force reconsideration of, say, the tax cut bill. Perhaps even his pardons could be reversed at will.

As far as Nixon went, there was not much that was reversible. We were not able to unbomb Cambodia, untapped the Watergate or undo the election of '72, and some of the things he did were actually positive. Nothing Individual-ONE has done is positive. Not one fucking thing. The more we can reverse, the more quickly we can do it, the better.

And AAUI, a pardon does not constrain civil action or legal actions against his businesses.

I’m more worried about street violence by Trump’s supporters than I am about Trump carrying out a coup. He wouldn’t have support from the military, the secret service, or the FBI. Some of my fears were eased when prominent military leaders stood up to Trump when he suggested using troops against protesters.

If he loses, I expect Trump to tell his supporters that they’ve been robbed, and to suggest that they take to the streets and use their second amendment rights to express their anger. There could be violent clashes with counter-protesters. We could see assassination attempts, not just against Biden and his VP (whoever that turns out to be), but against secretaries of state (who run elections), Democratic senators and representatives, prominent supporters, civil rights activists. . . Even Dr. Fauci could be in danger (I wouldn’t put it past the MAGA-hat crowd to blame Fauci for Trump’s defeat).

I agree all of these are very likely. I’m far more worried about him doing something irreversible, like launching air strikes against Tehran or Pyongyang, or (more likely) firing a whole bunch of U.S. Attorneys investigating federal crimes.

Should this happen in early or mid August, the GOP could nominate someone else as their candidate. Who that would be is up for speculation. Personally, I doubt it would be Pence.

If it happened on August 31, he’d be the official nominee. It would be interesting to see how the GOP would handle it.

Oh sure, there will certainly be an uptick in domestic terrorism. But they are pretty stupid and lazy, so I’m not all that worried.

In the end, he’ll be taking his cue from the media (Breitbart, Fox, whatever) that have been leading him by the nose all along. If they promote such actions, or imply that there is a viable way for him to benefit from such actions, then he’ll be tweeting toward that. He won’t even be considering what it might lead to–just how it might benefit him.

If they indicate that in some way he might somehow reverse the election, then he’ll be tweeting to that, and probably hoping for it. If they are promoting, instead, that he start some kind of big media operation (as he was planning to do after the loss he expected in 2016), then he’ll be tweeting toward that.

In short, his only concern will be how to serve himself, and, yeah at least some of his moronic followers will take whatever it is as an excuse to do reprehensible things.