The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

If he gets GA reversed, then the official story is is that there was mass fraud. Can open, works everywhere. Remember that the plan for a long time was for America to lose faith in elections. It still is.

I saw that on CNN. Thanks for mentioning it – definitely worth noting. The orange turd is truly a class act – I don’t think it’s possible to sink any lower in sheer vindictiveness, pettiness, and childish immaturity. He really is like a horrible six-year-old that you want to be sure to keep the knives away from.

A plan heartily endorsed by the orange shit-gibbon’s BFF, Vladimir. For what he’s done for US well-being and security, the shit-gibbon should be in Guantanamo.

Low class.

Does not compute…

As I said a couple years ago, and got no reaction to it. :frowning_face:

He has no bottom – he is an assless chap.

Stealing. Stolen. Stollen.

Like you were capable of doing something worthwhile; like you were capable of feeling and demonstrating love and affection for another living creature; like you were capable of behaving responsibly.

Take your pick, ya America-hating fuckstick.

Lighten up, Francis.

Yeah, I’ve got that contingency covered, by the simple expedient of never thinking that.

The Clusterfuck was so deep and wide, the flow of lies so continuous and torrential, we’re not even through tallying it up yet! (And hence, the on-going life of this thread.) The fact-checkers long since lost count of his lies, but it seems they’re finally getting all caught up.

Trump made 30,573 false or misleading claims as president. Nearly half came in his final year, Glenn Kessler, WaPo, Jan. 23, 2021.

WaPo’s fact-checker team has been doing this for 10 years, but the four years of Trump was something special. They created a special database just for his lies. The article gives an overview of his record.

Silly. You’d have people for that.

Well, <Harrumph, harrumph, bluster, bluster> Joe Biden has already told a lie, too, and he’s only been President for FIVE DAYS! He said “all” when he should have said “most”! So there! :face_with_monocle:

I’m severely pissed about this:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/25/politics/emoluments-supreme-court-donald-trump-case/index.html

One of the things that rankled the most over the past four years has been Trump’s blatant ignoring of the emoluments clause. No other president profited from his time in office so obviously and corruptly. He’s unique in not merely not putting his assets into a blind trust, but openly encouraging people to use his hotels. This seems as clear-cut a case as there could be.

But now the Supreme Court has blocked lower courts from even considering the issue, has wiped away all lower court rulings, and there’s not a single comment on it? I could see Trump’s appointees maybe agreeing to this, but how is it we get no dissent or comments from the more liberal justices?

Olly olly oxen-free?
Really?

IANAL but it appears to be an ironclad legal technicality, given that Trump is no longer President. Even one of the plaintiff attorneys in your cite seemed to acknowledge the futility of continuing the case:

I guess the rationale is that these actions were unconstitutional violations on the part of President Trump. Now that President Trump no longer exists, there are no grounds for pursuing these cases against him.

All the more reason to make explicit legal restrictions on a President’s activities while in office, instead of just trusting to precedent and protocol to restrain them.

Yes, apparently the only tool available under the law as it stands was a civil suit to make POTUS stop doing what he was doing. Not to punish Donald Trump for it.

And yes, one more of those instances in which we discover a “rule” that was no such thing but only a practice predicated on the officeholder having any sense of honor or shame about it.

So when he was president, there was nothing that could be done because he was president.

And now, there is nothing that can be done because he’s no longer president.

Did the supreme court just clarify that a President of the United States can do whatever the fuck he wants all day long, and suffer no consequences (EVER IN HIS LIFE) as long as there are enough sycophant toadies in his senate to allow it?

That’s what Article II says, isn’t it?

/s

There may be other things that the former occupant of the Oval Office gets called to account for, but apparently violating the Constitution is not going to be one of them.

Can’t do anything while he’s president and can’t do anything after he’s president. Should have handled it before he ran.

The real, effectual, long-term solution would be to replace the emoluments clause with an amendment that says: every president must release his taxes, and must liquidate any business venture. Period. Oh, and can’t receive bribes and titles from foreign princes & potentates and all that stuff.