The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

Well, Hannity didn’t notice either, so its as much his fault as Trump’s!

To be fair, at the time of the Hannity interview Trump was still on record as having said what he said. That was before his national security advisers got together this morning and decided that he didn’t say what he said. This is why Trump has the best people, believe me, the BEST.

It’s an Albany expression.

He may be a terrible president, but he steams a good ham.

That may actually be sort-of true. In the past the Queen and Prince Philip together have welcomed visiting heads of state but the Queen has usually left it to him to do the bit where they walk alongside their guest during the inspection of the guards. As Philip recently stopped making public appearances (Harry’s wedding being a rare exception), it was a bit unusual for her to be doing this instead. But that also means that it wasn’t some sort of special honour for Trump. Rather it was clearly that Philip had taken the view that the event wasn’t that important. And who can blame him? That said, I would be very surprised if the Queen had never ever done it herself before.

It is perhaps a pity that Philip wasn’t doing it, as one presumes he would have been rather less tactful in dealing with Trump’s apparent cluelessness.

Not that it is especially reassuring that this may be the closest to something vaguely accurate that Trump has said over the past few days.

That is the part of the press conference that was the most frightening and it isn’t getting enough attention. When Trump mentioned the “incredible offer” , Putin was quick to interject that it wasn’t one-sided and that he wanted to get his hands on Bill Browder in return.

I read Browder’s book before Trump even decided to run for President. I highly recommend it, especially for anyone that might lean towards being a Russian apologist. Or anyone that thinks there is anything legitimate about Vladimir Putin.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_3_5?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=red+notice&sprefix=Red+n%2Caps%2C142&crid=3UZ3GGSOW86MM

Because Browder successfully campaigned to get the Magnitsky Act passed. Putin made up a false narrative that painted Browder as the guilty party. And he’s been trying to get his hands on Browder ever since. Luckily, the law enforcement agencies of the civilized world all know this is bullshit and they pretty much universally ignore the Interpol arrest warrants that Russia keeps issuing, although every now and then he gets detained for a short while.

But it was sounding to me like Trump might have agreed to hand Browder to the Russians in the private meeting. At the very least, it was the quid pro quo to the “incredible offer”. He’s going to hand an innocent American over to the Russian police.

I wish I could have been a fly on the wall at the meeting today where they had to make Trump agree to publicity admit he was wrong. About ONE word. That’s all they got.

And, did you catch Trump’s response at the press conference when they were talking about possible Kompromat? Putin was coy and smirking and didn’t deny ha ing it, of course — but Trump said [if they had it]” it would’ve been out a long time ago”. Funny think to say about a videotape that doesn’t exist,

As as aside, I saw a guy in the park the other day dressed as the Pee Tape. Seriously, a big full body video tape costume. Same park where I saw a Mike Pence look-alike in a suit jacket, tie and tiny tiny shorts. Sometimes I love living in New York.

And you KNOW this is going to go Charlottesville in a few days, because Trump’s going to stew and stew about having to make that statement and he’s going to blow. And he’ll say something really bad. Or Russia will start releasing details of stuff Trump allegedly agreed to in the private meeting. And it will be outrageous, like handing over Browder. Or both.

Dang. You make me jealous.

CNN has been showing photos of the script he was reading from. One line is crossed out, about bringing the people involved to justice. And in big fat sharpie at the top of the page he wrote “There was no collusion!”

Which is hilarious… he’s been spouting that line for so long, you would think he’d have to write it down.

Maybe it was a note to his handlers, passing back the draft they had written for him. Which is to say, he’s not reminding himself, but them.

I see what you did there

This is incorrect; please stop spreading false stories about our President!

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As you can see from this photo, what Trump wrote was clearly “There was no colusion”.

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Accuracy counts, folks; don’t inadvertently help Trump look better by getting the details wrong.

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John Kelly gave Congressional Republicans the green light to tear into Trump after the Putin Presser yesterday.

Man, how bad do you have to suck if your own chief-of-staff is lobbying politicians against you?

I was just out briefly and happened to catch the radio evening news. The CBC interviewed a few Trump supporters after the extraordinary developments of the last couple of days. The question of the moment is, have Trump supporters changed their views? Perhaps you can guess the answer!

One of them was pretty typical of the bunch. Speaking in that southern drawl that one associates with country music and the kind of total political cluelessness that elects Republicans to Congress, he declared that Trump was a man of great integrity, and that it was better to be friendly with Russia than to show up at a summit hurling insults, and that it seemed to this eminent scholar that y’all leftists just want waahr.

Well, no actually, we don’t want waahr, and that’s kind of the point. Strongman dictators like Putin look for weakness in other leaders and exploit them. When Khrushchev perceived weakness in Kennedy after the 1961 Vienna summit, the consequences were dire. Khrushchev was under pressure to deal with his festering “Berlin problem”, and as soon as he had assessed Kennedy as weak and unlikely to retaliate, the infamous Berlin wall went up almost immediately. Not long after, Soviet nuclear missiles starting flowing into Cuba.

Trump has been sidling up like a hapless puppy to Putin and Kim Jong Un, both of whom he greatly admires, while insulting just about every one of America’s traditional allies and trading partners. Just recently he insulted the French president, the German chancellor, and the prime minister of Canada at the G7, then flew to the NATO meeting where he insulted just about everyone and especially the German chancellor a second time, then to the UK where he insulted the prime minister and the mayor of London. Then off to Helsinki where he kissed Putin’s ass so passionately it’s a wonder anyone was able to pull them apart – after which the Russians declared the summit “magnificent” and “better than super” while both sides of Congress and media in the whole of the western world condemned it in a sort of shocked disbelief.

John Kelly has enabled Trump.

He can go to hell.

Here’s something to chew on:

I’ve been ridiculed and called a chicken little. But the reality is, I am a realist, and I don’t just attend book clubs and wine-and-cheese parties with other social elites. I know my fellow Americans better than most. And I know that the election of 2016 was not an aberration, or an ‘oops’ moment that can be easily corrected in the next election when people have an awakening and realize that they shit their own bed. it was an election of a nation of imbeciles who don’t really understand how democracy works, who are angry at the blatant unfairness of our economic system, who wanted to protest somehow, and, most significantly, are willing to experiment with a different system altogether.

More than 200 years ago, the Founding Fathers started our little experiment called democracy. Well 200 years after that moment, the descendants of our Revolutionary Dead are conducting their own little political experiment, an experiment with authoritarianism.

Can I just say I doubt it’s a pee tape? I mean, I get that’s what the Steele report says, but if there’s a tape of any sort it’s going to be worse than something you can find on Pornhub.

Given trends in the Republican party… Roy Moore, Jim Jordan, Dennis Hastert, even Donald Trump… the tape likely involves young, underaged girls.

Again, IMHO. But I doubt a tape exists but if it does, I seriously doubt it’s something as passe as watersports being done by 20-something hookers.

I just posted this in another thread but I think it’s relevant here and I don’t wanna type that much again:

I can’t wait for people to give up on the incredibly juvenile and salacious “pee tape” references and focus on the fact that Trump is compromised, not how. Because the fact that he’s compromised means he no longer fears the tape, if one exists; he fears getting himself and everyone he knows murdered by Putin.

Do you think the Novichok poisonings in the UK, right before Trump visited, were an accident or a random act?

That was a message: Putin can get to Trump and to Trump’s family; Trump knows it and knows he can’t stop Putin. The only thing he could do that might save his neck would be to admit what was going on and fall back on our government’s resources but he can’t and won’t do that because of both fear and his ego. And because he thinks that there’s a scenario that ends with him winning it all and coming out on top (here’s the secret tho: there isn’t!).

Attempts to remove him will not be successful because Putin also has dirt on way too many Republicans, thanks to the emails he hacked back in 2016 (and ongoing, no doubt) and because many in the GOP likely also see a scenario where they come out on top after things shake out (here’s another secret: they won’t!). Do you forget that a bunch of Republicans were in Russian for the 4th of July holiday just a couple of weeks ago? What do you think the purpose of that trip was, once you strip away the innocent-sounding language from the description? “A thaw in relations”; “strive for a better relationship”? :dubious:

How spineless, how craven do you have to be to need permission, nay direction, before speaking out against this kind of thing?

I doubt Trump cares if he’s caught in a pee tape; he would probably proudly own that moment.

What he cares about is his money – well, it’s not really his money…and that’s the problem. He’s indebted to Russian kleptocrats, and they are indebted to the king of kleptocrats. The entire story of Putin is a guy who was a master military spy, a master bureaucrat and gaining power in administration, and then using that power to rob people blind and kill anyone who dared to confront him.

While we were hyperventilating over Trump getting ass-fucked on live television by a foreign adversary, here’s what nobody was talking about, but would have had this happened on any other day but yesterday:

Browder is, in some ways, a linchpin – well, actually, the guy who can pull Putin’s linchpin (secret money). But what’s disturbing is how now our president’s interest and Putin’s are essentially aligned: secret money, corruption, breaking the rule of law, wiping out opponents. Given time, the longer we have to live under Republican misrule, the more our government will resemble the governments of Turkey or Russia. Secretaries hired to run ABC agency for no other reason than to break the institution and use the levers of power to thieve taxpayers blind. Scott Pruitt, Tom Price…just the beginning, folks. Just the beginning.

This makes sense.