You will notice that Aspenglow’s post says “people”. That is a much broader category than “MAGAts”, or even “Republicans”. We know, from 538, that just now, almost 54% of America disapproves of Shitgibbon, that he has been above 50% disapproval since his 52nd day in [del]usurpery[/del] office, and from the week after that, he has not been better than 51.3% of ick.
So, “we won …” is a damn small number of Americans, and even the “eh, whatevar” contingent is drifting/plunging toward the “holy-fuck-what-is-wrong-with-that-shitstain” camp.
He says “elections have consequences”. The midterms don’t count I guess, because they didn’t go his way, but betrayal and treason should have consequences.
And a good old fashioned hanging would send just the right message to the rest of the traitors, and anyone else considering it.
Are you going full-asahi on us now? Yes, elections have consequences, and honestly, I feel like presidents and executroids are far too well insulated from the effects of their decisions or from bearing any of the cost of their mistakes, but hanging them really helps no one, ever. If you want to punish him, confiscate everything he owns and make him try to support his newly indigent family by folding tacos – the long, drawn-out punishment is much more satisfying, and the convict does not get the relief of the quick consummation.
Operative word there was “necessarily”. As in ain’t necessarily so.
For instance, if you were a professional paranoid, like Putin…a wildly successful paranoid, let it be noted…how likely would you be to advise a shit-for-brains motormouth as to your ultra-secret conspiracy? Wouldn’t it be simpler just to nail your pecker to a tree and set the tree on fire?
I’m betting the plan was more along the lines of subversion. How hard would it be to convince Trump that his Russian buddies simply recognize his brilliance? That they are eager to lend money because they know a winner when they see him?
Now, even given this scenario, it might still happen that he catches on. Eventually. But then…so what? He’s caught. Classic Moscow Centre money trap.
Anyway, when the target is stupid and easily manipulated, a dupe is much less risky than a partner.
[ul][li]Because, like kaylasdad99, I think capital punishment is wrong.[/li][li]Killing a head of state is a bad precedent.[/li][*]Once someone is dead, the punishment is over. I want The Traitor to America to suffer for the rest of a very long life for what he has done and is doing.[/ul]
No, Putin is very anti-Lenin. I have zero doubt that the parallels here have occurred to Putin.
Of course, it being Russia, Putin’s relationship with Communism is complicated. He doesn’t care for appeals to the revolutionary spirit of 1917, prefers to refer to Russia as having one uninterrupted existence from 1300-today, but he also won’t completely denounce it.
Fine. Lock him up forever, hard time. You can’t just take all his shit away and let him run loose. He’ll just find ways (charities, scams, Russia) to get it all back and he is a giant unprecedented security risk.
Hanging him OR locking him away forever to do hard time - after a fair PUBLIC trial of course - is not just about punishment. It stops him from doing any further leaking to the Russians, it tells the entire country that there is a law and no one is above it, and it sends a very clear message to any other traitors or wannabe traitors out there.
Harsh punishment is the most clear and practical thing to do. He can NEVER go free. Not for all the damage he’s done and all the damage he could STILL do later.
He’s already got American right-wingers to bend over and spread their ass cheeks for the Russian bear. This would have been unimaginable a generation ago. Putin is a magician.
Actually - I think he simply doesn’t care - he (in his mind) is ‘winning’ and that is all that matters - he doesn’t care about the rules, laws or anything else - they simply don’t apply to him.
He’s the guy who thinks he’s smarter than the nigerian prince - so smart/stable that he can’t be manipulated - and that’s exactly why he does.