Properly integrating immigrants into a community includes making sure they have housing, a means to obtain food, and some social/cultural support for a period of time before they are entirely on their own. For those immigrating for jobs or joining family that is done privately. For asylum seekers and refugees that aid is provided by the government at various levels.
Simply busing people into a city and literally leaving them on the street is sort of the opposite of what should be done. It means adding to a city’s homeless/unemployed population, which is not good. Downright cruel to people stranded in a foreign country who usually don’t speak the dominant language, or don’t speak it well, have no local contacts or means of support, and likely no money either. A headache for the social services agencies who have to try to find emergency housing and food for folks until they can get longer term shelter and support for these folks.
That is why there is supposed to be a system for asylum seekers and refugees, so they don’t wind up sleeping on the streets and eating out of dumpsters. We used to do be able to do this. What’s wrong with us that we can’t seem to do this now?
Yes, for decades the government either encouraged or actively reunited families. When large groups like the Hmong have been brought in they weren’t all settled in the same place but were settled in groups so they could have some community, which also tended to have families wind up in the same location. It was not required, but ethnic communities often have social services for newcomers to help them adjust, deal with bureaucracy, and so forth.
Why wouldn’t we want to reunite family members? (Assuming no abuse issues, of course)
Because the current administration’s attempt to put all incoming foreigners into the same barrel labeled “dangerous” is starting to bear fruit.
Trump clearly does not distinguish between “illegal immigrant”, “asylum seeker”, “refugee”, and “dangerous criminal”. He doesn’t want anyone else to be able to make the distinction, either.
Can he be embarrassed? Like so many xenophobes, he’s one of those people who wouldn’t let their own ancestors immigrate. If he can survive that kind of mental disconnect, he can survive anything short of a nuclear blast. Maybe the blast as well.
And that’s just the Clusterfuckedness that we know about. Imagine if we knew about all the behind the scenes Clusterfuckery, how long this thread would be.
Is that what we do now? A family from Honduras requests asylum, they get processed, and they say “We have family in Detroit”. Are they sent to Detroit to live with that family?
What if they have no family in the US, what happens to them? Cages in Texas somewhere?
I think at last report I heard, they’ve “dumped” about 25,000 in Phoenix, on the street, at a construction site next to the Greyhound station since Greyhound said no mas
Because the point of the policy isn’t whether it is better or worse for the asylum seekers or whether it’s better or worse for the United States, but whether it is cruel which will make sure people like my immediate family, and the rest of the MAGAs, continue to support him.
And this policy is needlessly cruel to the right people, and is a perceived attack on political enemies. It’s MAGA orgasm.
The proposed policy is mostly a reflection on how Trump sees immigrants. That the administration sees human beings with no proper documentation as some sort of smallpox blanket that he can inflict upon his enemies says everything you need to know about this bunch.
An asylum seeker is not the same thing as a refugee. Asylum seekers are not eligible to receive refugee support, and they cannot receive other social services either, such as SNAP (“food stamps,” etc.). Refugee resettlement agencies do NOT receive funding for helping asylum seekers, so if they assist an asylum seeker, then it’s purely on a charitable basis. (There is a program to help Cuban-Haitian asylum seekers, but that has been complicated by issues regarding the TPS, and the elimination of the wet-foot/dry-foot policy for Cubans). Once an asylum seeker is granted asylum by an immigration court, then they receive refugee support. Until then, they are pretty much on their own.
The only “benefit” asylum seekers may receive (and it’s not automatic) is approval for a work permit, which they typically receive in about 180 days. So that’s six months of depending on family or the charity of others.
So leaving a bunch of asylum seekers suddenly in one community is clearly going to be problem, until they can work. And, as noted above, they have to periodically go to court where their case initiated, and they probably don’t have the funds to be travelling around a lot. Because asylum seekers typically don’t have legal representation, they often aren’t aware of these issues.
I general once you have been granted asylum you are a legal resident (or pending legal resident) and you can go wherever you want. I can find information about resettlement of refugees, who are selected and vetted while oversea and thus arrive in more orderly clumps, but not on what happens to a single mother from Honduras who doesn’t arrive with a plan for where to go in the US.
Well, you are a refugee for one year, after which, you must apply for residency, or leave the country. You can go wherever you want, except you can’t leave the country without special permission.
As I noted above, such a person is pretty much on their own, and until she gets a work permit, is relying on the help or others (or savings, if any).
It should be noted that even refugees don’t get much support. A single refugee has eight months to become economically self-sufficient.
Close but rather, I am of the opinion that the current administration and the plutarchs who support it view all human beings as nothing more than entities from which all possible money is to be squeezed, rather like a lemon.
MAGAts, OTOH are foolish people who have bought the snake oil the plutarchs are peddling.
I’ll amend my previous statement: whether or not relocation to a sanctuary city is good or bad for the migrants in question is almost beside the point. This policy says 2 things about the Trump Administration, both of which are despicable: (1) that he sees American cities as enemies to be punished; and (2) that he sees immigrants as nothing more than a weapon to punish people with.