The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

Sure, despite none of that probably registering at all with his 39% scumbag base.

Wouldn’t put anything past that felcher either.

aw that’s so…generous. My bold - showing that the rest of us traitorous heathens aren’t really worthy of even reading his pearls of jizz-dom from on high.

To be fair, he does have their back…as a target.

They knew what he is but didn’t care because he promised to ban Muslims. That’s all they cared about. Why do they support his dismantling of everything Obama did? Because they believe Obama’s Muslim! Anything bdo does, then, obviously, must be great because he’s sticking it to Muslims, especially to his Muslim predecesser. His BS about other minority groups is bad, too, of course, but not as bad as the anti-Muslim crap he rode into the White House.

I’d offer to let him pet-sit my colony of brown recluse spiders, but he is so vile that I doubt even they would bite him.

His interview on Foxnews with Chris Wallace is a thing of beauty. He claims that Trump is not under investigation, but chastises the Justice department for investigating Trump. Leading to the following exchange:

  • “You’ve now said that he’s being investigated,” Wallace said.

“No, Chris. Let me be crystal clear so you completely understand: We have not received nor are we aware of any investigation of the president of the United States,” Sekulow replied.

“Sir, you’ve just said two times that he’s being investigated,” Wallace said.

“I just gave you the legal theory of how the constitution works,” Sekulow said. “If in fact it’s correct that the president is being investigated, he’s being investigated for taking an action that an agency told him to take. That is protected under the constitution.” *

So, basically, he’s not being investigated, but the investigation is wrong. Your honor, I did not kill that man, but if I did, it was self defense.

I guess that’s why Trump’s lawyer recently hired himself a lawyer.

One should not forget that although Mr. Richard Nixon did not spend a day in jail, plenty of people around him certainly did. Including some high-ranking folks, and lawyers;
John N. Mitchell – fAttorney General and director of Nixon’s election campaigns; served 19 months.
H. R. Haldeman – White House chief of staff,received an 18-month prison sentence.
John Ehrlichman – assistant to Nixon served 18 months in prison.
Charles Colson – White House counsel, served seven months.
Gordon C. Strachan – White House aide conviction was overturned on appeal.
Kenneth Parkinson – counsel for the Committee to Re-elect the President;faced 10 years in prison, but acquitted at trial.

Trump must be a nightmare to anyone he is boss of. The best example to me would be his Press Spokesman. You get informed of the talking points, go and discuss these talking points in a press briefing and then get totally undercut and contradicted by your boss (usually via Twitter).

I must be thick, because I’m not getting the desperate argument over whether or when the president* was the principal target of an investigation. It has little to do with whether evidence has been/will be found of wrongdoing on his part, and particularly nothing whatever to do with whether he obstructed justice (correct me if I’m wrong, lawyers, but it is possible to obstruct justice by interfering in an investigation that doesn’t involve you, isn’t it?) or not. So why is this point the Maypole everyone’s dancing around?

I always have to chuckle when the Chief of Police of some burg, even very small ones, appears on TV wearing MacArthur’s uniform.

Just my WAG, if he’s the target of an investigation that indicates something is actually being done about his alleged obstruction of justice. That would the desirable outcome for those who believe he is guilty.

In my mind I always call him Cowboy Patton.

Predisent Turmp himself started it with his obsession over that specific point. If he couldn’t just make the whole thing go away, he wanted himself not just cleared, but so anointed sinless he’s not even being considered.
Two reasons. First is it gives him a stupid version of plausible deniability if all his underlings were in Russia’s pocket behind his back. Second it lets him sleep at night knowing his own guilt is still undiscovered and nobody is going to ask to look in his closet door skeletons. (Also probably why he wanted Flynn let go, IMHO Flynn wasn’t discussing sanction relief by his own accord.)
Also, a criminal case against the president directly is significantly more complicated, difficult, and perilous than anyone else that works for it.

Remind you of anybody?

Look, I just bumped into Sauron down at the Pak’n’Save, and I know you didn’t mean anything by it, but he says Melkor’s been holed up in Angband, crying and eating a tub of double-fudge ice cream, ever since you compared him to Trump.

You’re missing the most obvious point of Trump’s obsession with “I am not / was not under investigation,” which is that it plays well to Trumpists.

Of course it doesn’t really mean anything. MOST criminals are, at least for a time, not personally under investigation while the crime is being investigated. If I go rob some banks the police will not, at first, be personally investigating me; they will be investigating bank robberies and trying to identify who the masked robber was. Indeed, it is quite likely the great majority of the investigation will proceed without the suspect being identified. This isn’t a perfect analogy - in the bank robbery scenario the fact specific crimes were committed is a matter not in dispute, whereas in the case of the Russia scandal that’s a matter yet to be determined - but the point is generally valid.

But “I Am Not Under Investigation,” while legally meaningless, is VERY emotionally meaningful to Trumpists. Tens of millions of them are typing it on Facebook or repeating it, because Trump and his media allies told them to. To them, it means something; Trump said so, so it must mean it exonerates him.

I’ve got someone on another site that is endlessly repeating that “since Trump’s lawyer says he is not being investigated, this means that Trump is completely exhonorated, and this whole thing is now finished. Winning! And the libtards must be crying now, which is terrific.”

He seriously thinks that if your lawyer declares you innocent, then the investigation must stop.

I wonder if there’s an element of…i dunno… sunk cost, or the emotional equivalent. "I supported him so hard, and if he turns out so crooked, so fast, what does that say about me? "
I doubt that most Trumpettes are really thinking that, but i wonder if some part of their brains are just refusing to believe that they were taken in by such am obvious con.

Very likely. Cognitive Dissonance meets the Sunk Cost Fallacy.

Actually, that fits a theory I have about right wing views of environmental issues.

Why are right wingers deny climate change? The science is valid. Don’t they care about the world their kids will inherit?

They deny it because they have F350s and ginormous Silverados and Rams, and if humans can affect the climate, them maybe they themselves are part of the problem. But, they like their trucks. So, better to believe that climate change is a hoax, and then they can keep their truck with a clear conscience.

Same with trump. If he’s really not the pathetic trumpster fire that people say he is, then they didn’t make a mistake voting for him.

Their foresight is generally limited to a four year span. Besides, caring about the world is for those damned hippies.