The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

I’ve listened to his show, Jay Seculow live, which is basically 50% screed about how liberals are oppressing Christians and only he can stop them from making Christianity illegal, and 50% begging for donations for the ACLJ (aka The American Center for Lots of Jesus), which is basically the bizzaro world version of the ACLU. He is a compete and utter tool. He has less to worry about losing reputation as a legal scholar than does Saul Goodman.
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Annecdote: He takes calls but they are heavily screened and all agree with whatever point he is making. One time a reasonable listener got through and disagreed with him about one point, and Jay went off on him calling him a liar and as proof of that the fact that in order to have gotten on the show he must have lied to the call screeners, before cutting him off.

A disturbing number think it doesn’t matter because they’re all going to be Raptured any day now.

It’s easy enough to blame him and only him. “Hey, we trusted him and he let us down.”

I don’t think it is that easy. If he is a con man, his supporters have to admit to themselves that they were fooled. I think a lot of people find that really hard to do.

Some people keep sending money to 419 scammers long after it’s become apparent to everyone else in their life it’s a scam.

I wish they would be. If everyone who thinks they would actually be raptured away disappeared, we’d be getting rid of some really shitty people.

The problem is that they see it in these terms:

[QUOTE=Otter, “Animal House”]
You fucked up… you trusted us!
[/QUOTE]

Especially since so many of their fellow citizens saw through the con so easily.

*It is easier to fool someone than to convince him he has been fooled. *
-fortune cookie

Absolutely true. I had an aunt who refused to hear any talk about climate change, because she specifically said that she did not want to do Anything to change her lifestyle. And hearing about how she was part of the problem was uncomfortable for her, so she basically stuck her fingers in her ears.

I think this is common. At least she admitted it.

Why are the Wingnuts still so concerned with fucking over hippies? Hell, our heyday was about fifty years ago.

I think you are all over-thinking it.

Trump supporters believe the lies because they have multiple sources telling those same lies: talk shows, Trump’s tweets, Fox News, Breitbart, their Facebook friends, and all the memes and articles shared by their friends.

Also, those sources are all busy telling people that Establishment Politicians are all corrupt. That’s what populism really is: blame the entire establishment and claim that only an outsider can fix the system. That’s why it’s very easy for Trump supporters to believe that everyone in government has a vendetta against Trump.

And of course, scientists are part of that establishment, and their funding depends on confirming the establishment position.

45’s new Christian crusader lawyer, Jay Sekulow, made most of the Sunday news shows. Oddly, even though he has resided at Faux News for years, that’s where he was tripped up in his denials of 45 being under investigation.

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They’re old and represented by an elephant. :smiley:

Sean Spicer is now holding press conferences in which no audio or video are allowed.

I don’t disagree with any of the previous answers to this, but feel impelled to point out that there is a very concrete, immediate, and practical answer to the question 'why are Trump’s people trying to sell the idea that Trump is Not The Target of Investigation’:

---------If all the reputable polls show that 80% or so of Americans believe that Trump is the target of an investigation, then Trump can’t fire Mueller. But if 80% or so of Americans believe that Trump is NOT a target of an investigation, then…fire away.

Simple as that.

Probably because Spicer felt he would be embarrassed as all Hell if he had to answer questions about This Cretin.

The hippie movement was the last time the american left could be looked at by reasonable people and considered silly and dismissible. The right likes to pretend the left is still a bunch of silly college kids, because it’s the only way they can pretend they’re not full of shit.

Sigh. Yet another reason to be embarrassed about being a Texan. There are already so many.

This is the state that wants to teach creationism as a legitimate alternative to evolution* and to put it in textbooks. :smack:
*After all, it’s only a theory. :rolleyes:

I hope that every time this happens, the press gallery turn their backs and start singing the national anthem.