The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

Well, millions of us remember Boehner, and we never even met him.

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Apparently there is a second dossier outlining Trump’s connections to organized crime. Commissioned by Steve Bannon and paid for by the Mercers. So, left wing conspiracy, I guess.

Is it because he cried after Trump beat him at golf?

So, where are they going to find all those billions of dollars to pay for it?

From Trumps mouth at that Nashville event:

Is an effective tax rate of 5.3% common for an American family of four? Or is that just the rate Trump is used to pay?

Also, the median household income in the US is about $59,000, not $75,000 (Median Income in the US Hits All-Time High).

To be fair, he did not say that 75k was the median.

I get your frustration, follow and agree with much of what you have said, especially what a worthless turd Paul Ryan is and how he has been normalized such that even utter incompetents like Pence, DeVos and Pruitt are glossed over as “acceptable.”

But I don’t agree with you that Trump’s incompetence is the only thing shielding us from rule by the Deplorables. They’re running things now. Trump is merely an empty suit into which they all pour their special brand of crazy.

You can’t think Trump thought of Gorsuch by himself. That’s McConnell and the Mercers all the way. Frankly, it would have been hard to find a more activist judge than Gorsuch who could have survived confirmation.

Move our embassy to Jerusalem? Bannon’s big idea.

The tax cut for the wealthy? Paul Ryan and Grover Norquist finally had their mutual tax 'gasm.

You know all this!

No, the only thing leaving Trump in office accomplishes is to put a nutjob’s hands on the nuclear codes, and the USA one irresponsible tweet away from a hot war with… fuck, name whatever country you can think of. Probably Iran. But Mexico isn’t out of the question. (I kid. Sort of.) Trump is far more dangerous to the country while in office than even Pence or Ryan.

Sure, Pence wants to turn the clock back to the 1700s, but that’s not what the majority of the people want in this country. Nor does the rift in the Republican party go away just because Trump is gone. You still have the Freedom Caucus fighting with the moderate Republicans and/or the so-called establishment wing of the party. Their civil war doesn’t disappear with or without Trump, and it helps Dems a lot.

Will Pence or Ryan sign more EOs than Trump? I doubt it. And they’re easy to undo, once Pence and Ryan are gone. I don’t think Ryan is even going to run again, no matter what he’s saying now. There’s a nice fat job waiting for him at the Heritage Foundation from what I’ve read. A little “thank you” from the Kochs while Ryan plots his slither into the White House in 2028. Hell, he’ll only be 58.

I agree with jayjay, that Mueller has Pence in his sights as well. I think the evidence shows Pence has lied and lied. The way the timing is unfolding with Mueller’s investigation, the presidential blow-up will coincide with the mid-term elections. That’s going to keep everyone off balance and unable to focus on an “agenda,” no matter who ends up seated in the Oval Office.

Pop quiz: Which national leader demanded that a crowd give him a standing ovation, then said that “they must love their families”, or otherwise they wouldn’t have stood?

A. Hitler
B. Pol Pot
C. Donald Trump.

Of course, you have all guessed the answer.

^All this.

septimus, I agree with Aspenglow that the frustration you expressed is understandable. But I don’t agree that keeping Trump in place is the best option. His incompetence is overshadowed and neutralized as a protective factor (so to speak), by his popularity with ‘the base’-----popularity that neither Pence nor Ryan possess. If either Pence or Ryan gained the presidency due to a removal of Trump, there would be a slowing of the destruction of democratic norms, simply because their actions would be more closely scrutinized.

Neither Pence and Ryan can boast the Trump-base halo effect that keeps congressional Republicans terrified of being primaried. Congressional Republicans would therefore be more willing to decline to approve judicial nominees, etc. Despite the fact that Pence and Ryan are indeed likely to take actions (nomination of judges; executive actions; Cabinet department shenanigans) that are just as destructive to the USA as anything Trump has done, they might meet with more opposition simply because standing up to them will be less costly (with regard to reelection).

Trump’s incompetence shields us from exactly nothing. Ryan and perhaps Pence may well be more personally-competent individuals. But competence is much less important than is popularity, when it comes to the Presidency. Trump has millions of rabid fans. Neither Pence nor Ryan can make that boast.

And Trump, as Aspenglow also pointed out, is an unstable, insecure man possessed of the nuclear codes. That is not a negligible point.

Saying “he is unfit and he should go” is in no conceivable way a claim that a Pence or Ryan presidency would be ‘a good thing’. Neither would be a good thing for the nation or the world–they’d just be less bad than what we have now.

Well, this was from a couple of days ago, but to answer the questions about McDonald’s:

I will admit that I have purchased from that very restaurant as it was on my way home when I worked at the Washington VA. While that was several years ago, I was absolutely convinced that they were just waiting for me to come up with the appropriate code word in order to supply my drugs at the take-out window and were constantly upset that somebody actually was ordering McDonalds’ food. I’m not exactly sure how I got that impression. In any case, we know know who gets the food (or at least who used to), which McDonalds they went to, and why the White House staff doesn’t just make him a burger.

I wonder if it was Trump himself.

“Okay guys, this guy’s gonna write great stuff about me - the best stuff, believe me! Give him all the access he wants.”

Sometimes it’s clear that certain people are trotted out in front of cameras for the whole purpose of giving Donald Trump some home-made gladiator TV to watch while he munches on his Big Mac at night. Yesterday, Stephen Miller provided one of those occasions. General Kelly provided one a few months ago. Sean Spicer did those appearances before he got turned into Spicey on SNL - King Donald doesn’t like it when his Praetorian Guard gets turned into toy soldiers.

Yep. We have to show that we are willing to follow the rules. And impeach and incarcerate as needed.

We just CAN’T turn a blind eye to trump, saying well, the other devils may be worse. His base wants a ‘shake up’ in government. Well, here you go. Your supposed leader is gone. NEXT!

God, that headline…Gorka wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped him in the face with its dick.

I’ve got an idea! The Whitehouse could send a chef to Hamburger University and then apply to be a McDonald’s franchise.

(To flatter the boss, use real gold for the Arches and drop the ‘Mc’…)

I like this quote:

"So, when I met Michael Wolff in Reince Priebus’ office, where he was waiting to talk to Steve Bannon, and after I had been told to also speak to him for his book, my attitude was polite but firm: “Thanks but no thanks.” "

Good job of:

  1. Confirming the access Wolff had
  2. Throwing Reince/Bannon under the bus
  3. Confirming that you were “told to speak to him for his book”
  4. Showing you don’t follow orders

Very good! And really, extra ketchup? No pickles?!? What, he thinks he’s ordering from Burger King?

I bet the White House chefs could make a passible duplicate of a Mc’D’s 1/4 pounder. Probably refuse to do so.

They would never touch meat of such low quality. Much like Melania.