By definition, that is what compromise is, making things less bad. If the options are that a horrible bill goes out voted on only by republicans, vs a less bad bill that gets bipartisan support, are you saying go with the horrible one?
And, that gets away from what I originally said, anyway. All I said was that, if trump does do something “good”, and in the process, claims that it was his idea all along, then letting him have that, letting him believe that it was his idea to do something good, is preferable to him not doing anything good.
First, more people voted for nuance than for Trump. Hillary got almost as many votes as Obama did in 2012. 2016’s Electoral Vote count doesn’t indicate that people are somehow more stupid or less “nuanced” than they were four or eight years ago. It simply means GOTV on the left sucked.
You think those shows are good examples of “simplistic stories of good vs. evil?” I’d say movies and TV shows have become more complex in recent years when showing good and evil; bad guys don’t wear black cowboy hats and twirl their mustaches anymore for fuck’s sake.
Anyway, can we take this discussion to another thread? It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the clusterfuck of the Trump admin, and you’ve hijacked this long enough to the point of annoyance.
A BIG problem with that is it will only reinforce his base and they will be empowered to vote for someone worse next time.
And, it makes excuses to not remove him for office. Sure, we may be able to manipulate him to do something that’s good (or at not too horrible). But to do so is covering up for him. He is a criminal and a moron, and we should not let that become the new normal.
So it’s up to Trump to decide whether the Nunes memo gets released now, huh? I know he wants it released, but Sessions doesn’t. It will be interested to see who wins.
In other new, A White House staffer refers to a reporter as “Miss Piggy”.
“Go fuck a cactus?” What the fuck? For addressing something you posted, and then requesting the discussion go into its own thread instead of further hijacking this one? When did you become such a delicate douche?
Stonewall obstructionism like the republicans did to Obama? I don’t think that will work. It played to the republican base, because they like it when the govt is dysfunctional, the democratic base gets nervous about shutdowns and gridlock.
The republicans considered a feature that their party was preventing the govt from operating, so shutdowns and gridlock got them votes. that strategy is not going to work for the democrats, and certainly will win over no independants.
The way to show voters that you are the best choice for governing is to govern well. Getting any sort of progressive issues through, or getting regressive policies blocked, would be accomplishments that the dems can show the people. The people don’t pay any attention to the sausage making, they just look at results. Results are that progressive policies are made into law. Results are not who gets credit.
My personal hope is that Mueller finds enough on his family and business that he has to make a deal and resign, or watch his family go to jail and his business get liquidated. I think that is the most likely way he leaves office prior to Jan 2021.
That still leaves us with a pence administration, and a republican congress. Not a huge improvement as pertains to stopping regressive legislation, and getting progressive legislation passed.
As a side not, some Q-guys from back East tell us that 72% of republicans consider CFSG to be a good role model for children. The supporting-numbers from that survey are disturbingly high.
Up to this point, I had thought of the Shitgibbonettes to be simply deficient in capacity for reason, but this is encouraging me to rethink that notion. Averaging the general intellectual malaise predominant in the party, it seems more than obvious that “republican” is an actual disease.
What is not clear is how (or whether) this malady can be treated. Some conditions can be managed with things like SSRIs or antipsychotics, but this case looks more challenging. I believe that institutionalization is in order. These subjects are a severe danger to the public and need to be studied in a controlled environment so that we can mitigate their societal cost.
Failure to address this major health problem is no more tenable than simply ignoring the spread of the Spanish Flu. While actual contagion is much lower than, say, TB, the peripheral hazards that these people pose are not at all tolerable. We must band together to help these victims, because the alternative means of dealing with them is too unsavory to entertain.