The Trump deportation news thread

I think we’re going to see a lot of resistance similar to the above, across the United States. Red state or blue state, it doesn’t matter when the authorities show up for your students, for your workers, for your fellow churchgoers, for people you know are actually American citizens, and the list goes on. You know these people, many times personally, and you care about them.

In the end, Trump, from his perch on high, doesn’t see them the way you do. He sees a great amorphous glob of people, none of whom is distinguishable from any other. You’re on the ground, so you see them as individuals, and you’re going to do what you can to protect those in your circle. I imagine many Americans will too.

Boston Mayor Wu has been asked to testify at a Congressional hearing on sanctuary cities. Not subpoenaed – yet.

Wu told reporters Tuesday that she and her administration “will respond in due time.”

House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman James Comer, a Republican from Kentucky, launched a probe Monday into “the policies of sanctuary jurisdictions and their impact on public safety and federal immigration enforcement.”

In the letter to Wu, Comer said, “Boston is a sanctuary jurisdiction that refuses to fully cooperate with federal immigration enforcement” and that all four cities “stand out in their abject failure to comply with federal law.”

Why don’t we have a replacement for them?

Perhaps if they want the city of Boston to enforce federal immigration law they should cut a check. I hope Wu tells them as much.

She’s more likely, politely phrased, to tell them to fuck right off. I expect 45/47 to try to punish Boston and other sanctuary cities/states by cutting all possible federal funding.

ETA: I read somewhere that there are plans to force local/state law enforcement to participate in deportation roundups by declaring them federalized deputies or some such thing.

I’ve never liked the idea of sheriff being an elected office, but we got lucky when he decided to run. His predecessor went hard maga during the pandemic and was facing accusations of driving drunk on the job and using his position to cover up an accident he caused while intoxicated. I met him awhile back when he came to my grocery store looking for a missing teenager, and he was super friendly and didn’t try to act tough and intimidating like most cops do.

I also worked on a project with the US treasury on migrant farm workers. The work is hard, and in all but the worst weather. Of course here in CA, the weather is often pretty nice. CA does insist on work & meal breaks, water and potties. Some employers.contractors provide meals. A good fast pro worker can earn quite a bit doing piecework, during that season- we figured it out and if they were able to work like that FT all year, they’d earn over $60K- and that was in the late 1980’s. Mind you- they dont get rear 'round work like that. So, pay isnt bad-while they are woking, work conditions range for ideal to too damn hot, but yeah, it is backbreaking labor.

CA changed that.

Altho entering the country illegally is a crime, being here without proper documentation is not a crime, per se. Yes, they can be deported, but it isnt an actual crime leading to indictment, trials, juries, etc. And many undocumented aliens entered the USA totally legally. Asylum, visas, etc.

Fresh produce anyway will get expensive. Americans eat mostly corn and wheat, which is almost entirely mechanized.

Correct.

Believe it or not, it takes skills to pick produce (as an example) quickly and properly. It is also really hard work, and temporary. Farmers have tried to get an all american workforce, and they cant do it.

Every day I check this thread…and every day I am highly disappointed to find out that Trump has not yet been deported.

Exactly my point.

There are and have been indictments, trials, and juries. It’s allowed to be treated as a crime or as the start of a removal procedure.

Maybe there’s some better word but I’d generally take it as “illegal” and “criminal” are different words. It’s illegal for the President to fire Inspector Generals without 30 days warning to Congress, but it’s not criminal. It’s opposed to the demands of the law; it is illegal.

Where are you getting ‘an unlawful act can be treated as a criminal act’ from exactly?

It’s a bit nuanced, but here’s a good resource that explains the legalities of a few relevant actions:

ETA: and the original 11pp PDF from 8/2021.

federal officials are vigorously prosecuting migrants either for entering the United States without permission or for reentering the country without permission after a prior deportation or removal order (commonly referred to, respectively, as “illegal entry” and “illegal re-entry;”…The government’s approach to charging migrants with these entry-related offenses imposes heavy costs on both the migrants themselves and the federal government.

Yes- entering the USA illegally is a crime. Being in the USA without proper documentation is not.

Physical presence in the United States without proper authorization is a civil violation, rather than a criminal offense.

Good cite, however.

Trump believes he’s identified a place with enough vacancy to be useful in this project:

Puerto Rican U S citizens detained, later released.

Brian

Que linda me la traiga Cuba
La reina de la Mar Caribe
Cielo sol no tiene sangreahi
Y que triste que no puedo vaya oh va, oh va

Translation

SOURCE

All Latinos need to keep their papers handy just in case they get rounded up. School kids should have emergency plans to contact parents when they get scooped up at school.

I’m skeptical that the Guantanamo Base can house 30,000 migrants. I think the detention center set up after 9/11 could host hundreds of people but being able to house and feed 30,000 seems a lot harder.

Objection. Assumes intentions not in evidence.