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Remember when Mick Mulvaney went on TV and said that Trump committed a quid pro quo?
Why, that’s nothing but hearsay. Mick said it, and we heard it, so it isn’t admissible.
Remember on 9/11 how they wouldn’t stop talking about the person who first called 911? Or how the guy who first noticed Benedict Arnold’s treachery is always talked about? Of course you don’t because they didn’t talk about it. It makes no difference whatsoever who it was or why he did it. All that matters is uncovering the facts about the crime that the whistleblower reported. The right wing wants to expose him so that if he indeed was a Democrat, that would in their mind nullify the whole investigation. Apparently crimes can only be investigated if the person reporting it is of the same political persuasion as the perpetrator.
I just wanted to add that law enforcement actively encourages criminals to turn in other criminals that they dislike. They even foment discord if it means they catch more criminals. They even PAY people to anonymously turn in criminals.
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Aside from the little good-natured jab at the grammatical error above, and in spite of the fact that you started out the post calling me “part of the problem with what’s wrong with America today”, and recognizing that you didn’t actually ask me any questions, I still feel compelled to respond to your post.
Regarding “Trump is a very bad person”, I think our positions might actually align fairly closely on this. I don’t think he’s someone of high moral character. For example, he appears to have cheated on all three of his wives. But, I think we settled back in the '90’s that a president’s personal moral failings aren’t a good enough reason for him to not be president.
Regarding “Trump is also a very bad president”, I disagree. My taxes have been cut and the economy is booming. ISIS is defeated (at least to the extent that their leadership is dead and they no longer effectively control territory in Iraq or Syria). The courts are getting filled with judges and justices that respect the Constitution. North Korea is no longer launching missiles over Japan (and yes, I’m aware that a SLBM landed in Japan’s EEZ a couple of weeks ago). Efforts are underway to curb illegal immigration. Overall, I think his record as president has been rather decent, surprisingly good, in fact. I’m comfortably part of the ~44% that approve of the job President Trump is doing.
Many of the remaining things that you see as “obvious” are not obvious to me.
Do you think President Pence would screw that all up?
lawyers, guns and money trump competence, decency, and integrity.
Impeachment isn’t a criminal justice proceeding. It’s a political process. To be more specific, what is happening right now is a giant PR battle, where both sides try to persuade enough voters to their position to sway senators to their position. If the public learns that Ciaramella was a deeply-partisan actor, motivated not by some altruistic sense of duty but by partisan biases and political machinations to “take down” President Trump, and secretly colluding with Schiff’s staff prior to the complaint, that information is likely to sway some number of voters to the Republican side of the PR battle.
in other words, your guys are trying to Swiftboat a CIA employee who said things that have been proven true.
It’s not that I think President Pence would “screw that all up”, but that he’d have a harder time winning the 2020 election than an exonerated / acquitted President Trump.
Exposing someone to death threats because you think it might help your side in a political squabble is a pretty shitty thing to do. Can we agree on that?
Interesting. It’s common knowledge that quite a few Republican politicians can’t stand Trump but won’t break with him for fear they will lose their next election. I hadn’t considered that Trump voters will continue to support Trump on the basis that they can’t see a future of the party without Trump.
More accurate to say guilty of being a socialist or liberal. It is GOP guilt mechanics 101: if the guilt can be located on the WB, then that is the end of it and Trump is exonerated because the guilt can only exist in one location at a time.
Probably not. Dr. Blasey Ford and her allies exposed Justice Kavanaugh’s family to death threats because they thought it might help their side in a political squabble. I don’t recall many Democrats saying that was “a pretty shitty thing to do”, so the complaint now rings hollow to me. Sorry.
You’re seriously putting Kavanaugh in the shoes of being a whisteblower? Man, have you got that backwards.
ETA: Plus, accusing Ford herself of responsibility for making death threats – what the fucking fuck news are you reading…
“have a harder time winning the 2020 election” != “can’t see a future of the party without Trump.”
I missed the part where his nomination to the Supreme Court was supposed to be anonymous.
Nope, I’m putting him (and his family) in the shoes of people who were exposed to death threats because dems thought it might help their side in a political squabble.
Sickening, but still not surprising, unfortunately, to see HurricaneDitka denigrate a woman who did nothing more than publicly talk about her experiences as a young girl.
“better chance of winning the 2020 election” > “electing a degenerate”