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This is just plain trolling. Don’t do this crap again.
I’ll be hiding your post.
They were warned and thread banned for this post, don't reply to it please. WE?
I feel like you are missing the core point (two, actually):
- When the western democracies allied with the USSR, it wasn’t because they wanted communism, it was because they needed allies to fight Germany, just like the world will need to find allies to fight America; and
- Large swaths of the US are already under religious law, just not Muslim.
Anyone willing to fight America is an ally. America needs to be stopped.
A long time ago, apparently when there was a peak in Quebec vs. the rest of Canada tension, I read someone’s semi-serious plan for how American could take advantage of it. Basically admitting the Eastern most provinces, then the ones they said might as well be called “Montana North” and so forth, and then the Western provinces and finally Ontario would give in, leaving Quebec behind as the remnant of Canada, because nobody expects Americans to learn foreign languages, right?
Someone up thread said they wished California/Oregon/Washington could do the reverse. And then likely all of New England would follow, and maybe a bunch of the Great Lakes region. Leaving US/Trumpland to fester on its own. Sort of an amazing reversal.
I believe that the Federal government is overall a massive transfer of tax money from the east and west coast states to the south and Farmland, I wonder how well Trumpland would manage in the future?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: “US Out of North America!”
I have always felt that if too much of your economy depends on exports and or imports, you are not in control of your economy and even sovereignty. A smaller economy with a small consumer base needs to take full advantage of flexible manufacturing methods. Able to make a variety of items in variable runs with minimal retool times and costs. Business needs to be nimble and able to offer a variety of products to the small consumer base.
Canadians (typically in western provinces) who say they welcome the idea of a U.S. takeover, have been referred to as the “Timbit Taliban”.
A/k/a traitors.
I’m cautiously optimistic that this will fizzle out quickly. It’s going to do a lot of damage, very quickly. And the coastal cities will probably feel the impact less immediately and severely than the MAGA areas, which are (I suspect) much more dependent on the export jobs. Because not only will that include manufacturing, but agriculture too.
I found this map of each state’s largest export destination and the value thereof.
It’s going to hit places like Montana and Iowa pretty hard, and pretty quickly
I think that the real challenge for us (Canadians) is that no amount of analysis will provide a solid answer as to how to respond, because none of this is based on logic. It’s all based on Trumpian whims and whatever insulted him at a particular moment.
Unfortunately, we do have some blame for this as our federal government has consistently blown off national defence, probably because we could rely on the US to pick up the slack. We have been allowed, by circumstance, to prosper as a significantly navel-gazing nation.
For context of this discussion, here is something I put into Linkedin a few weeks ago, as all this was starting to brew up.
"I spent a 30-year career in the RCN and for my entire career I’ve had to listen to “experts” and well-meaning but naïve ideologues suggest that the CAF is just some tax-funded employment agency for paranoid alarmists.
For that duration, and probably for much longer, my country has done far less than the bare minimum required to protect this wealth of riches and resources that history has given us. All the while our government and pundits have lectured the world on our higher moral ground, bragged about us being a “soft power” that “punches above our weight”, thinking that somehow that magically allowed us to evade our responsibilities to defend ourselves.
So here we are, two years into a full scale war in Eastern Europe, a wannabe dictator south of us mocking and threatening us, and an evermore accessible and undefended north.
The bill has arrived at the table and we can’t pay it."
So if other countries (particularly the US) are pissed off at Canada, I certainly understand, however, do we deserve these levels of animosity from our immediate neighbour? I certainly don’t think so, but I think that it’s time for us to get our act together and behave like adults who actually understand that we live in a dangerous world.
Canada ended WW2 with the world’s 4th largest air force and 3rd largest navy. As the Americans slogged across Omaha Beach, the 3rd Canadian Infantry division was simultaneously landing a few miles to the east at Juno. Canada lost a higher proportion of their population as military casualties in the conflict than the United States.
What a monstrous betrayal of a blood brother. I am sickened and saddened beyond measure.
Unfortunately the US doesn’t have the governance structure to move so swiftly against a dangerously incompetent leader. We – and y’all by all the knock-on effects – are going to be suffering all the economic and other consequences of this misbegotten maladministration’s policies.
What does it mean, “a bag of Richards”?
Well markets went down over 4% in December over rumors. They could go down 6% tomorrow or do nothing, but the fear factor is high. The old “greed & fear are market drivers.”
Here we have North American companies reacting to DEI threats, now tariffs, what’s next? What has he said? I think it’s somewhat clear he’s using tariffs to cover tax cuts, but to Canada and Mexico, sort of China, he’s going to have to do more to cover these cuts.
This first move seems to be a feeler to see how far he will go. and some of the dumb new cabinet people were on TV wearing western apparel like props and propagandizing everything is an insult, I feel.
These heritage foundation people are total fuckheads.
Today in questionable metaphors:
That doesn’t negate the fact that 79 million of us voted for Kamala Harris and are heartsick over the results of the election.79 million of us are furious at those who didn’t vote. More than 79 million of us are devastated by what’s happening to our country. Calls to crisis lines increased dramatically after the election. Every LGBTQ person I know is fearful.
Recently, one of my former students DM’d me. She’s gay, married to the love of her life, and living in a red state. She’s terrified, she said, about what the future holds for her and her wife, who both voted for Harris. Do you blame her, too? How about the rest of the LGBTQ population who voted for Harris?
Yes, idiocracy has won here. Congress is controlled by the GOP. Again, that doesn’t help those of us in the minority. I live in a blue state. My US senators and HR members are all liberals, as are our governor (Bob Ferguson, the feisty AG who sued the first Trump Administration 97 times, winning nearly all of them) and my state legislators. The point is, we’re doing what we can.
I’ve been struggling recently. I’ve lost the country my parents sacrificed for and taught us to love. The foundational principles of democracy are falling. I find myself sobbing in the shower and often cry in bed at night over it. I’m far from alone in my anxiety and depression over Trump’s second victory and what the future holds.
Maybe before you blame all Americans, you should consider what’s happening here as a warning. After all, the far right has been growing in Canada, too.
What is a nickname for “Richard”?
I do the same. At any given moment I fell like the anxiety is going to overtake me. All we can do is try to stay sane and survive.
I didn’t claim it would.
I wonder if this trade war is just another example of Canadians being “blind to their own privilege” as was stated in other threads when Canadians exhibited concern over Trump’s sabre rattling.