The US is currently attacking Caracas (Venezuela), has captured Maduro

Do they need one? No. Did we just give them one? Yes.

Not saying he would. Just using it as an example to certain folks.

Indeed.
And will 45/47’s approval ratings go up or down as a consequence of this?

Up among MAGA, down for everyone else.

Dollars to donuts that overall it goes up, and don’t you know it too.

We have been here before

If there’s no further action, it will pass through one ear and out the other faster than polls could register it (see also, the Iran stuff last year).

If they actually captured the Maduro, there will probably be a lot more. Depending on if they intend to put him on trial for something, toss him in prison without bothering with charges or just torture & kill him.

Also, I expect that there will be more military action when Venezuela fails to suddenly love us for bombing them.

Oh, come on; I’m sure someone out there will still pretend.

one thing you can be sure: the orange administration will milk Maduro for what he is worth …

(make out of that whatever you want)

the GOOD NEWS is, like most Dictators he failed to let somebody grow next to him to step into his shoes … so hopefully there will be a pathway back to democracy …

It’s been like that for decades at the very least. America has just been playing “rules lawyer” games for the last few decades, like bombing Saddam’s entire palaces so they could claim they weren’t trying to assassinate him.

What you can expect in the future is more and more political assassinations, kidnappings and so on; which have been very rare and usually not government backed in the now-ending era. Mostly because previously world leaders realized that it was in their own self interest for such things to be taboo.

But Trump and Putin are firm believers in the idea that they can do anything they please and nobody will retaliate in kind. So they are working hard to make murdering leaders like themselves internationally acceptable again.

Flood the Zone + escalating brinkmanship. What does this administration has planned next? Invasion of Greenland? Canada?

̶R̶i̶g̶h̶t̶-̶w̶i̶n̶g̶ Americans’ thirst for chaos, cruelty, and culture wars are never satisfied.

If they are willing to kidnap Maduro, perhaps the Prime Minister of Canada is next.

I hear Obama wore a TAN SUIT! Such insanity.

I started a Breaking News thread here:

We have been here before

With the dramatic improvement in democracy, social and economic well being of Panama; I wouldn’t be surprised if this will be used as justification for the action in Venezuela

Given that Trump also wants to attack Panama, likely not.

Russia has condemned the attack:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-says-maduro-to-face-justice-russia-slams-armed-aggression-spain-offers-mediation-with-venezuela/

Because Putin (points at Ukraine) like Trump is all about “rules for thee but not for me” and will cheerfully condemn other people for doing what he is doing.

Regime change. I suggest we look inward, not outward.

There is already a relevant pit thread, for those interested:

Please remember this is MPSIMS, and behave accordingly. Also, consider posting in hajario’s breaking news thread, linked above.