Actually, no. Just “mentioning the comic” is not what causes “hissyfits” (your post is no less of this btw). Mentioning it in conjunction with future events is what does.
Two other things. We who don’t want to be spoiled obviously don’t know when or how the comics differ, but it’s obviously taking cues from the it. My friend who has read the comics notes there’s far more similarities than differences. Two, there was no god-damned need to mention the comic in the original post. He could have simply left that bit out and NOTHING would be lost. Instead, we now have a potential spoiler for what happens.
I’m amazed some of you simply can’t show any level of respect about this and use spoiler tags. It’s not hard. Look, I’ll do it right now. See?
I gather the Governor and Merle go on a lot of secret missions like this. It’s gonna be a bit hard to keep this one hush-hush, what with Merle returning without his team, in an SUV with two hostages he’d pretty much have to keep constantly at gunpoint. Or are we just going to skip ahead to “Glaggie in prison” scenes with the implication that the townspeople are still none the wiser?
How dumb are we going to have to accept these townspeople to be? I can understand if the Governor goes out of his way to identify and eliminate anyone who is too inquisitive, but doesn’t that ultimately compromise security, leaving fewer and fewer people to protect the wall?
Hmm, I dunno - the impression I get of Woodbury is that most of the populace is willfully ignorant of whatever the Governor and his henchmen are doing to keep them safe. Think of it like they’ve taken Colonel Jessup’s speech from A Few Good Men to heart and quite literally do not question the manner in which their security is provided. Besides, the men on the wall are all hand-picked by the Governor or his lieutenants, and they’re the ones who would notice Merle coming and going, which seems to happen occasionally anyway. It’s even conceivable there is a separate gateway in the wall out of sight of Main Street that the Governor and his men use for their nefarious purposes (keeping up appearances, after all). So it’s not implausible to believe the rest of the town would be completely unaware of the goings-on at the militia level.
On edit: Also remember there is a curfew in the town, so there’s plenty of opportunity to come and go under cover of the night.
They’re not going to keep it hush hush. The Governor told Merle that the town would be told that it was a supply run gone sideways and the dead would be memorialized as heroes. As for the rest, well, who knows how big the town is and how restricted some areas are. I’ll just assume that Merle figure out some way to get the prisoners in without alerting the entire town.
I don’t know if it’s a matter of stupidity so much as it is fear. Not even fear of the Governor but fear of the outside world. Sure, maybe people the Governor doesn’t like have at tendency to disappear and maybe I heard someone screaming in the restricted area the other day. But I’m safer in here than I am out there and so long as I keep my head down I’ll be fine.
I’m not sure it’d be wise to count on such “heads-down” people if Woodbury gets attacked, be it by a massive wave of biters (or blockers or jammers, or whatever) or a determined band of survivors, but whatever.
Which would be why the Governor is so intent on ferreting out and eliminating potential sources of conflict from outside the walls. They apparently have enough people to man the walls, which must be a full perimeter, so they seem to have a pretty good-sized fighting force. The possibility of a similarly-sized and equipped moving force approaching Woodbury seems remote. Walkers can’t climb walls.
Can we not do the comics vs. tv show fight again this season? Didn’t we settle it last year, that the comic books are the comic books and the tv show is the tv show and we discuss each in their own separate threads?
Sixty-three years later and we still bitch about football delaying The Amazing Race in those threads so I imagine the comics vs. show thing has a good 23 years left in it at least.
Firstly, I sincerely apologize, if my mentioning the comic upset you in any way. Seriously, though, you might want to consider lightening up the tinest bit.
Firstly, I’ve never even read the damn comics; my comment referred to something that had been posted in a previous thread, which itself was fairly non-specific in nature. Secondly, I didn’t mention anything at all specific about upcoming events, except to imply that Glenn and Maggie appear to be in for a spot of torture, which I think just about anyone would consider likely from the events of the current episode alone. By your logic, apparently, had I simply left the work 'comic’out of my post, everything wouldn have been fine, despite the speculative content being exactly the same.
Anyway, that’s fine. Y’all continue on without me: I’ll stay out of these threads from now on.
I HATE spoilers. I don’t watch “next week” previews, and I hate folks talking about them in the open. I hated nothing about your post. When I read your post, I pretty much thought exactly what you posted in the quote above. No spoiler, no harm, no foul.
So far, this season is FAR superior to last season. Hope they don’t run Rick’s imaginary telephone calls into the ground, but everything else is all good. Even Carl isn’t as annoying.
That’s something I’d love for them to spend time on: the common Woodbury citizen. We’ve spent time with the town’s leader, scientist, and it’s warrior caste, but beyond that we just got a few minutes with a doctor and a few minutes with a tour guide, both blandly pursuing their duties. With Andrea seemingly integrated into Woodbury society, I’d like for the writers to introduce one or two regular citizens. Do people know that the Governor kills humans on flimsy pretexts on their behalf, but quietly accept it for the sake of a better life? Is it just an unspoken understanding, or is there a faction that’s growing suspicious? Could this faction convince their fellows, or would they be purged? I fear that instead the Woodbury folk, aside from the warriors, will be treated as a monolithic block of mindless conformists.
I also like the idea, mentioned in last week’s thread, of Woodbury as a sort of Potemkin village, in the sense that the Governor uses looted goods to supply people, but doesn’t want to interrupt the citizens’ “normal” lives with back-breaking farm labor. Thus, the town is doomed to fair once the supply of canned goods and such dries out. This could provide a plausible excuse for the Governor to aggressively seek out enclaves like the prison for looting, without resorting to “The Governor’s kinda crazy.”
Agreed; this season is the best sustained run of episodes the show has done, IMHO. I am deeply concerned that things are about to get broader and more comic-booky, with the sword-wielding silent badass and the evil dictator and all. But, we will see.
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Why the fuck does the Governor care what happens to Michonne after she leaves town, to the extent of sending out four guys to waste her?
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Michonne could tell someone else where Woodbury is.
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Right - and it goes way deeper than that. Michonne was right all along about Woodbury. NOBODY LEAVES. They pretended to let Michonne leave - knowing all along that they were just going to go get her and kill her. People leaving is usually not a problem - Woodbury’s pretty much paradise compared to the outside world - but anyone who does want to leave can jeopardize the safety/security/insanity of Woodbury, thus no one is allowed to. Right?
Governor wanted the sword and head both as a trophy and proof that Michonne was dead. Whether he has long term plans for Andrea or not, I don’t think this by itself means he does not.
