Yeah, this show sure leaves no creative stone unturned. The writers probably spent weeks pondering before settling on a poorly-choreographed gunfight.
The Governor’s second is named Ceasar Martinez.
Tyreese’s woman is actually his sister, Sasha.
You are correct. I thought she was his daughter.
Other than “Martinez” (which I misrecalled) I can’t bring any on-screen mention of these names to mind. I figured out Tyrese/Tyreese only from the discussion here.
Speaking of gore, the Crispy Critter Zombies were pretty cool. 
They’ve used Tyreese, Ben, Donna, Milton, and Martinez’s names that I can specifically recall. I had to consult the internet for Sasha and Allen. The show is a little slipshod about names for the supporting and guest cast.
I don’t recall them specifying their relationship on the show, but they may have.
I’m curious if the show will use Tyreese’s background as an NFL player. If they do, that will mean that the major black male characters have been a super-religious guy, a convict, and a pro athlete. Yeesh. When Tyreese dies, maybe we can get a blues musician.
Double dose of artificial drama this week.
Tyrese saved White Guy’s wife (From what? Zombies? Eating yellow snow? Wearing white after Labor Day?) once. Consequently, White Guy has been nursing a pretty big grudge. These folks traipsed through zombie land together for a year. Surely, everybody has rescued everybody else by now. Even Rick’s group (who have the emotional maturity of middle schoolers) aren’t so dysfunctional as to make a big deal out of who saved who from what, when.
Additionally, Woodbury’s powers that be seem to be unable to distinguish members of new groups (ie. Ty & Co.) as individuals. They can yell and come to blows with each other, right in front of trusted Woodburians, but there’s an expectation on both sides that they will be judged collectively and either all stay or go together. “You’re screwing it up for all of us!” will inevitably, and inexplicably, become a major point.
That would improve the soundtrack.
I don’t know if John Coltrane could kick walker ass with a saxophone or not. Be hell on the keys.
The problem wasn’t that he saved her, the problem was that after he saved her the guys wife looked to him for protection instead of her husband.
Guv. Killed in Mexican standoff with Rick, Martinez, and Michonne.
**Martinez. **Dropped by Daryl after Michonne performs a craniotomy on the Guv.
Hershel . Falls into walker pit. Can’t escape.
The son of Tyreese’ friend. Carl has more balls than this kid. Merle does him in.
The snotty chick with the expensive bow and arrow set mommy and daddy bought her. Andrea offs her after a major chick fight.
The new leader of Woodbury? Rick (President) Morgan (VP) and Milton (Secretary of State), Merle (Secretary of Defense).
That one got killed during the Daryl/Merle rescue didn’t she?
OK, I forgot about that part, the situation is more complex than I recalled. Point taken.
Guy is mad at the universe for putting the other guy in the right place at the right time to pull off a heroic save, instead of himself. The resulting rearrangement of spousal confidence caused a bruised ego and a lingering feeling of impotence. So now he’s all et up with smoldering resentment for dead wife, Ty, and himself. Good grief, how contrived and silly. It’s more of the rather weak, unrealistic, adolescent-level interpersonal drama we’ve been slogging through in between increasingly uninteresting action.
I haven’t read this entire thread, but has their been any comment about the spoiler-pictures that have been floating around the intrawebs of late?
Say what? :dubious:
Much like last year there was a picture of Carol’s (i think?) daughter coming out of the barn that was floating around the webs a few weeks before the episode aired, there are the same sort of pics floating around. Supposedly they are of the last episode of the season.
They look legit, but one can never know with the interwebs.
Sadly, I have no trouble believing that Woodbury leadership would have such a foolish, counter-productive rule (or outlook) in place, because they are written as needlessly antagonistic fools.
Then again, this could just be an assumption on Allen or Tyreese’s part…The Governor and Martinez might not care who came in with who, just who’s willing to follow orders and work hard and who isn’t.
“People shouting is drama!”
This one had better legs under it than most of the melodrama, in that being in Woodbury freed Allen to try and be the big man again: survival isn’t a minute-by-minute affair anymore, and he can afford to antagonize half of his group for the sake of his own ego. So, it can be taken as a statement that humans cooperate selflessly in the face of danger, but once the danger has abated, squabbling and politics resumes.
It’s not remotely confined to this show, but the use of the magic bullshit detector trope was also irritating. The Governor knows who torched the zombies because Milton acted uncomfortable (which is sooooo unlike him) and Tyrese said “Huh?”. Case closed, wisdom received.
There are plenty of real life deluded assholes who think they have an infallible sense for when someone’s lying. It would have been cool if the writers played with that. The Gov goes off smugly confident in having ferreted out Milton’s malfeasance, then we get to puzzle over it while waiting for the big reveal next week.
Instead, it’s just an info dump gussied up with some fake tension. One commercial break’s worth of suspense, then he susses it out for us and the plot shambles along to the next yell point.
I was just perusing the intrawebs and I found some links to the pics. Some of what is linked to on this site has already come to pass…
While three pictures have not…
Oh fuck I clicked one the first one and which I hadn’t. :smack: Major spoiler.
Sorry man.
Okay, for the links:
First link - hasn’t come to pass yet.
Second link - hasn’t come to pass.
Third link - was from the end of this episode.
Fourth link - was from this episode.
Fifth link - hasn’t come to pass.
Sixth link - was from this episode.
Seventh link - hasn’t come to pass.
Eighth link - was from this episode.
Ninth link - was from this episode.
Tenth link - was from this episode.
Eleventh link - was from this episode.
Yep, if you don’t want a major spoiler, you’ll want to avoid clicking on that first link. Damn. The others are harmless, but that first one, yeah, don’t let the mouse get near that one.