Based on the previews the group in question is Abraham & co. No idea who’s on Talking Dead tonight.
Finally! 
I was having flashbacks to being stuck on Herschel’s farm. Way too plodding. It didn’t help that I don’t like these characters very much, and the big reveal was the least surprising reveal imaginable.
It was hard not to see that coming. This is a case where I’m curious as to whether or not the general public saw it coming or it was just people ‘like us’ that discuss each episode. With that, I’m also curious if the writers wanted us to know that he was lying. I mean, they really didn’t go very far to hide it. Answering every question with ‘it’s classified’ got old quick, it didn’t make him a good liar, it made Abraham a gullible (and a good leader).
Also, that stupid accent made him really hard to believe so it’s hard to say if using a different accent or a different actor, but leaving everything else the same would have made a difference.
Just to be clear, I assume the writers wanted this to be some huge shocking revelation. Way to much time was spent building up to it and way to many characters were way to surprised by it for it not to be meant to be some huge surprise to us.
Also, did anyone else thing it was weird the way it was revealed. I mean, we had the big reveal at the end, but if you weren’t paying attention it was easy to miss that he mentioned it earlier too ‘hey, um, I like watching them bang…I also don’t have the cure’.
He didn’t admit he didn’t have the cure, he said he was only useful because he had the cure. In the library that is.
Was it already made clear Rosita and Abraham were together that way? I never realized they were a couple until this episode.
I don’t think it was ever supposed to be a huge shocking revelation to the audience. It was only supposed to be shocking to the characters.
Perhaps my view was colored by the fact that I spent the first quarter of the episode slightly unfairly pissed off at the writers. I thought we had another example of the strange inability for people on this show to drive (like with the open road car crash that Lori managed to pull off). Ultimately, they did explain it, but it was still weird that nobody in the bus stopped to ask, “What happened?”
Any ideas on what kind of compound that was that was blocking the way of our merry travelers?
Looked like a normal small town that happened to have thousands of zombies walking around every square foot of it.
I just rewatched the scene, he says “If I don’t cure the disease, if I don’t save the world, I have no value”. In hind sight (and in foresight if you know what’s going on), we know that he’s just slowing down the “mission”. He’s got nothing, he doesn’t even know what he’s going to tell these people when he gets to DC if there’s a DC and I think, at this point, he’s worried that there might actually be a DC left and he won’t be able to do anything but mumble some conspiracy theorist sounding crap and people that aren’t going to listen to him. So, killing the bus, ruining the humvee, all those thing are to make his time with that group take as long as possible since, as far as he’s concerned, when the get to DC, they’re going to cut him loose and he’ll be killed by walkers…or them when they find out he’s lying.
Having said all that. That entire sequence, (him talking to Tara) could have been left out entirely, IMO, it served no purpose. I get that it was a cry for help from him, he was finally starting to get this weight off his shoulders, but it was (kinda) resolved so soon after they could have just skipped it.
This episode explains why Abraham was so gullible and believed Eugene, but not why Rick and his gang did. If someone told me that story, he would explain everything he knew to me in 90 IQ terms, and also tell me everything he knew about the infrastructure in Washington.
Oh, you claim you don’t know what’s going on it Washington? You were talking to them with a satellite hookup until a few days ago. You didn’t tell them that it was total shitshow in GA and ask the differences? I want some answers before I believe anyone.
Instead we get:
Eugene: I have a cure.
Rick’s Group: What is that?
Eugene: It’s classified.
Rick’s Group: You’re gonna have to do better than that, buddy!
Eugene: Virus. Airborne. Reverse the process. Science. garble Kill the dead people!
Rick’s Group: Sounds good to us. Let’s roll.
Exactly. Worst reveal…well, probably not ever, but lord it was unconvincing.
I get the Abraham is a soldier, on his mission, but really, people would really have to work to convince me to leave my current shitty location and go to a more crowded shitty location on the word of one guy. Nuh-uh.
Is the character of Eugene taken from the comics? If so, was he more believable in that format?
That was a big assed cattle ranch, well it was a big assed cattle ranch. All those cows would have been pretty damn tasty for the walkers.
This episode and some of the last one make me a sad panda, The writing this season started out much better than in previous ones but once again its taking a turn for the stupid.
Thanks. I thought I was seeing sheds & silos as opposed to buildings & houses.
I still don’t get why Maggie and Glen went with them. And I guess my vision is going. To me it looked like a burned out town.
I don’t like Abraham. He’s an abusive asshole and I doubt he was ever in the military. If he was, he got kicked out for being an abusive asshole. I also don’t like the way Abe and Eugene talk. No one talks like that.
Are they going to head back to the church, or head on to DC? DC might still be the better bet in terms of some surviving infrastructure.
Yes he was and he was a liar in the comic too. That story was years ago but my memory of it was I bought it until the reveal. Abraham and Rosita are also from the comic although based on the flashbacks we saw they have changed Abraham’s story a little.
I’m still trying to figure out how glass in the gas tank manages to flip a bus.
(it wouldn’t get past the filter - it may clog the filter, but would be an easy fix - it would not 'cut thru the fuel line and even if it did manage to get past the filter and cut the fuel line - it doing so would not cause the truck to ‘flip’).
You don’t tell the guy you just pissed off that you’re smarter than him.