They took down large portions of their perimeter wall to use for their walker parade route.
no they didn’t - they had large sections they were working on for expansion - this was shown early on last season.
The wolve’s got in the same way that Eonid (whatever her name was) kept going out and specifically what she mentioned on screen - “too many weaknesses, too large”
The Wolves started the attack with the molitove cocktails on one end - jumped the fences on the other (or worked thru literal holes) and then ‘went to town’.
What we still don’t know- other than murder and mayhem - what the wolves are doing - part of the attack here seemed much more ‘personal’.
Really??? Then I totally misinterpreted some of those scenes. That was the only way it made sense to me that the wolves pretty much just walked into Alexandria. I thought using part of their perimeter wall was another dumbass/clever part of Rick’s plan. Maybe I got that totally wrong.
Now, it is not only the walker that gives threat for their survival. Likewise, the wolves.
They need to go on the offensive against the wolves. At the very least, they need to get some intel on their location, numbers, etc. Can anyone say: Daryl?
Remember, these are “shambling zombies”. They don’t climb fences – or walls, apparently. They will stand outside a fence and reach and snarl ineffectually through it as long as there is a visible attractant on the other side. A wall provides a visual barrier, so they don’t even bother with the reaching and snarling. They certainly aren’t able to figure out the leaning support poles as a highway to the top of the wall.
The Wolves aren’t zombies. Whatever the psychosis driving them, they are still fully capable of seeking out and taking advantage of soft points in the perimeter defenses. As Carl and JSS-girl have demonstrated, it’s an easy climb. Once inside it is also easy to do a tremendous amount of killing, if you are ruthless enough. Which they apparently are.
You’re overthinking it. As Enid said, the place is too big to defend. They got into Alexandria the same way various members of Rick’s parties got into Woodbury, Grady Memorial Hospital, Terminus, and in and out of Alexandria for that matter. They find a weakness in the perimiter and exploit it. It’s not like these are manned military installations surrounded by electrified concertina wire and manned by K-9 units, helicopters, drones and alert soldiers with night vision and thermal imaging sensors. It’s a bunch of idiots in a walled off suburban housing development. For all we know, the Wolves could have scaled the wall with grapling hooks 3 nights ago and holed up in an abandoned house biding their time.
From a story-telling perspective, it’s not important. They wanted to show the attack in more or less real time from the perspective of the Alexandrians. So that means no building tension by showing the events leading up to the attack. Just everything is normal then WHACK!!
Basically to drive the point home about how Alexandria has lulled them all into a false sense of security.
Which means the best approach if they can’t herd the zombies away from Alexandria is to sit quietly in their homes and let the hoard pass by them like stream flowing around a rock. Of course the danger with that is some idiot drops a casserole and the zombies just sort of stop. Now you’re surrounded by a sea of zombies.
Looks like Carol (aka Miller) put a knife in someone’s head!
Are Americans so hung up on the idea of childhood innocence that Carl can’t just shoot a guy from a safe distance? He has to get close enough so the guy can grab the rifle and create an imminent self-defense issue, instead of something like:
[Carl shoots guy in leg.]
Guy: Please don’t kill me.
Carl: Fuck you. [headshots the guy from 20 feet away]
Makes sense. I actually wasn’t thinking about it too much at all. The references to extending the compound didn’t register with me, so when I saw a partial wall in those early scenes with the mayor lady I assumed they had scavenged parts for the parade route. Good to know they weren’t dumb enough to do that.
Are you saying that the shows writers are Americans, or are you under the impression that TWD is a documentary?
Ahem, Carl (not his real name) had to get close enough to the Wolf (not a real wolf) in order to create drama for the viewers, and to sell advertising in order to pay the bills.
Carl: Why wouldn’t I just shoot the guy in the head instead of the leg?
Director: That happens every week. We want a more dramatic scene.
Carl: Can I kill him from across the street?
Director: Not close enough.
Carl: Can I shoot him while I’m standing over him?
Director: Not dramatic enough. We’ll have him plead for mercy until you’re close enough for him to grab you and the barrel of the gun. THEN you shoot him.
Carl: Why would I do something so stupid?
Director: It’s in the script.
The Wolves pretty much did walk, crawl, slither into Alexandria. The town wasn’t prepped for living/talking, bi-pedal berserkers.
Maggie and Deanna were discussing planting seeds and growing crops in the expanded area. The expanded areas walls were not yet completed.
IIRC, last season, someone (Reg?) had mentioned that the steel sheets had originally come from a nearby shopping center. I assume they would have access to a proverbial shitload of wall building material.
It’s especially weird because Carl was in a similar situation before - living a relatively comfortable life (at the prison) when it’s overrun by marauders, and he had no problem killing a guy who was slow to put down his gun. Unless they’re going for a new “women weaken legs” aspect to the show’s Rickist philosophy, I don’t get it - they already established that Carl doesn’t “go soft”, he guns people down.
I think the idea is that Carl (and others) aren’t complete hardened psychopaths and might give pause to summarily executing a human being who is begging for his life after having his leg shattered by a 5.56mm round from an M4 carbine.
A reoccuring theme of TWD is how does one “JSS” without turning into monsters like The Wolves or Terminus-folk or the crazy Governor.
I’m sorry, but what a strange comment. First, that the idea of childhood innocence is an American trait and second, that it would be a bad thing.
Yes, this is precisely why it’s so bothersome to me. A zombie apocalypse is about seeing people try to adapt to the new reality and you expect that some are going to adapt and others won’t. What’s so particularly offensive about the way this show progresses is encapsulated above. It’s about drama-maximization, not about any kind of coherent story telling or character development.
It’s one reason that the Alexandrians were something I was looking forward to. It would make sense if all of these softer suburban survivors were going to learn their hard lessons and adapt or die. For example, what if Enid was holding the gun and Carl was saying “Don’t leave the house! Don’t get close! Just shoot him!” I could understand it if Enid was soft, prone to making mistakes, etc. She could have been the character in that scene. But to see the script writers decide that Carl should regress for the sake of drama just takes away all the joy for me.
Maybe there’s some explanation for his behavior, but unless I missed something this episode, it seems entirely out of character for him and entirely in character for the writers.
The last time Carl had an aggressor at gunpoint pleading for mercy he shot and killed the guy. He was then restricted from using a gun for ~6 months. And had to play in the garden with his dad. And listen to Beth singing.
Carl and the Wolf is why every single incident between a big star and a director ever happens. “My character is nowhere near that stupid, and wouldn’t DO that, no matter WHAT it says in the script!”
Yes, but if you walk away you won’t be hired again.
I didn’t say it was an American trait - I suggested Americans wouldn’t stand for a radical departure from childhood innocence in a TV show, i.e. a kid cold-bloodedly shoots someone and it being the right thing to do at the time.
Once Carl is an adult, he can blow people away left and right and be the hero.