The Walking Dead; 6.16 "Last Day on Earth" (open spoilers)

[Bone]

I am a day behind because Amazon doesn’t get it till the next day so I just watched it. Man that was really bad. Aside from all the comments already made, the tactical errors here were just shit.

Where is the rest of the RPGs?
At the distance they were pulling up to the roadblocks, they were very large targets
Why did they exit their vehicle and leave positions of cover?
They could have fought through the first roadblock
They could have driven through the chain roadblock though they paid lip service to not risking the RV

And the direction - what the hell was the point of 3 or 5 scenes from where Daryl and company were being held? Was that supposed to convey anything? One time sure, but over and over, it might as well have been the same footage for the lack of anything it showed. Combine that with the rest of the shots of clouds, sunsets behind leaves, and I’m thinking someone was given too much leeway and not enough editing.

At the choosing scene at the end, I wanted them all to die.

But kind of separate from the show itself, I am genuinely surprised there would be that large numbers of actual evil people. I find it kind of unbelievable that there would be such an aggregation of people willing to go along with folks like Neegan.

[Rigamarole]

@Bone

Where is the rest of the RPGs?

Abraham only found 2 or 3 rockets to begin with, and they already used them.

[Johnny_L.A]

@John_Mace

The “goof”, as I noted in an earlier thread, is that no one would name a subdivision “Alexandria” in that area because there is a city of that name right there. It would be extremely confusing. It might be named “Alexandria Commons” or “Alexandria Crossing” or something like that, but not just “Alexandria”.

Per the link, ‘Alexandria’ is the ‘Alexandria Safe-Zone’ and is a few blocks of cleared streets in Alexandria, Virginia. So ‘Alexandria’ isn’t a subdivision named ‘Alexandria’; it’s a safe zone that was created within Alexandria, VA.

ETA: In any case, it’s not in South Carolina.

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[Half_Man_Half_Wit]

So, does anybody else get the feeling the writers are now trawling through social media to see who to kill off, such that it generates the least outrage? I think after the Glenn-fakeout and resultant backlash, maybe this had a hang in making this decision… So, if by chance one of them stumbles unto this particular backwater: it doesn’t matter. You already screwed the pooch!

A cliffhanger can work (sometimes) if it sets up some mystery integral to the story; if one is genuinely kept in suspense about how things may play out. But not if it’s just a tacked-on plot device to create artificial drama.

Additionally, I don’t see how it makes any sense at all for Negan to leave any of them alive. They’ve proven themselves to be dangerous; there’s no way he ought to expect this to turn out profitable for him. At the very least, he should kill Rick, as the opposing leader.

Negan was quite a disappointment, too. After all the hype, I expected a bit more than lame deus (or diabolus?) ex machina powers and a monologue that almost had me begging for the bat.

That said, I want a fight between Morgan and Negan—“This is my bat. I call her Lucille.”—“This is my stick. I call it stick. Because really, what twat names a club?”

[Bryan_Ekers]

Would it totally shock anyone if it turns out that none of the major characters were killed, that the one being clubbed was the Saviour with the burnt face who, as we shall see in the next episode, came walking up to the group at the last second and Negan, being a rather capricious sort, impulsively decided to make him a warning to others, for reasons known only to Negan himself?

[El_Kabong]

@Sampiro

It’s a shame that Mike from Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul didn’t survive to the apocalypse. He once beat the crap out of Negan’s number one henchmen armed with nothing more than a pimento sandwich.

Right, that’s where I saw that guy! That was driving me nuts.

[EllisDee]

@Half_Man_Half_Wit

That said, I want a fight between Morgan and Negan—“This is my bat. I call her Lucille.”—“This is my stick. I call it stick. Because really, what twat names a club?”

Arya: Lots of people name their swords.
Hound: Lots of cunts.

[Rigamarole]

@El_Kabong

Right, that’s where I saw that guy! That was driving me nuts.

He’s also extremely famous as Trevor from GTA.

[Try2B_Comprehensive]

@Bryan_Ekers

Would it totally shock anyone if it turns out that none of the major characters were killed, that the one being clubbed was the Saviour with the burnt face who, as we shall see in the next episode, came walking up to the group at the last second and Negan, being a rather capricious sort, impulsively decided to make him a warning to others, for reasons known only to Negan himself?

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[carnivorousplant]

That guy is named Dwight.

He lasts longer in the comic.

[Superdude]

@Grsz11

In the comic, after the first blow crushes the skull and pops out an eye, the victim is still semi-alert.

Please don’t post future spoilers, or anything from the comic.

[Bryan_Ekers]

@Superdude

Please don’t post future spoilers, or anything from the comic.

In fairness, he doesn’t stay semi-alert very long.

[Bone]

@Rigamarole

Abraham only found 2 or 3 rockets to begin with, and they already used them.

There were 3 RPGs, and only two have been used. If they were going out expecting Savior confrontation I’d think they’d bring it.

And the use of an RPG to ignite the lake was beyond stupid.

[Johnny_L.A]

@Bone

And the use of an RPG to ignite the lake was beyond stupid.

Not really. What else are you going to use? A match? A road flare? A torch? A ball of newspaper with a rock in the middle to give it heft? A burning tree branch?

[carnivorousplant]

@Johnny_L.A

Not really. What else are you going to use? A match? A road flare? A torch? A ball of newspaper with a rock in the middle to give it heft? A burning tree branch?

A zippo.
Ask Br. Gabriel to do it.

[Barbarian]

@Bone

And the direction - what the hell was the point of 3 or 5 scenes from where Daryl and company were being held? Was that supposed to convey anything? One time sure, but over and over, it might as well have been the same footage for the lack of anything it showed.

Those scenes establish who was killed.
The first POVs are of someone in particular. The final POV is their death.

It’s the bone the Powers That Be tossed to the superfans so they can figure out who was killed.

Unfortunately, it was an idea that should have been abandoned because it pisses off the core group of fans.

[Barbarian]

@Half_Man_Half_Wit

Additionally, I don’t see how it makes any sense at all for Negan to leave any of them alive. They’ve proven themselves to be dangerous; there’s no way he ought to expect this to turn out profitable for him. At the very least, he should kill Rick, as the opposing leader.

Nah. Negan wants them beaten and working for him as serfs, but he doesn’t have the manpower to police them into doing the work.

So, he needs the leader broken and cowed, but not dead. If Rick is killed off, the remaining Alexandrians would battle amongst themselves to be leader. With Rick nominally in charge, those who have already bowed their heads to Rick will continue to do so.
This episode also demonstrated that as good as Rick and crew are tactically, they suck at strategic thinking.

I also suspect that Negan is not fully aware of just how many of his people Rick has killed.

We know that Darryl wiped out the motorcycle gang, and we know that Rick et al wiped out the group in the satellite dish bunker, and that Carol took out 5 guys in a car, and that Darryl and Eugene got the better of Dwight at Denise’s death – but Negan doesn’t know that.

[carnivorousplant]

@Barbarian

We know that Darryl wiped out the motorcycle gang, and we know that Rick et al wiped out the group in the satellite dish bunker, and that Carol took out 5 guys in a car, and that Darryl and Eugene got the better of Dwight at Denise’s death – but Negan doesn’t know that.

Dwight didn’t return and say, “The Nerd bit me on the dick, Sir, so we ran away”?

[Bone]

@Barbarian

Those scenes establish who was killed.
The first POVs are of someone in particular. The final POV is their death.

It’s the bone the Powers That Be tossed to the superfans so they can figure out who was killed.

Unfortunately, it was an idea that should have been abandoned because it pisses off the core group of fans.

I didn’t interpret the dark box scene with bullet hole lighting to be POV scenes. They were establishing shots like the sunlight through the leaves crap. Nothing in those scenes made me think of POV so it wasn’t connected to the end scene IMO.

[EllisDee]

@Bone

I didn’t interpret the dark box scene with bullet hole lighting to be POV scenes. They were establishing shots like the sunlight through the leaves crap. Nothing in those scenes made me think of POV so it wasn’t connected to the end scene IMO.

I thought it was a callback to Terminus. Didn’t we see a bunch of scenes similar to that, with light shining through bullet holes in the wall, while our people were being held in the containers?