The Walking Dead; 7.01 "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" (open spoilers)

The most recent episode of “Atlanta” on FX had several uses of the word “fuck.”

I wondered about that, too. Is there a reason they can’t live across the continent?

Oh yeah. Well, Daryl’s a survivor - put a note in the place where you have decided as a group that you’ll leave bug-out notes for each other (because they must have determined THAT already - to not have done so would be incredibly stupid!), and bug-out.

There’s something wrong with you. :smiley:

When Negan comes to the gate, just shoot him. The odds are his group will then splinter as different people try to take over.

Given the circumstances, Daryl’s just gonna have to find a dumpster to hide under.

The graphic novels do bring the story to an end, but I’m not all the way through them yet.

Carl saying, “Just do it, Dad” got me far worse than the death of Abe or even Glen (which I was kind of prepared for thanks to the comic book and The Spoiling Dead).

Funny; I had the same thought, only with Canada.

But Our Gang isn’t very good at doing anything by stealth, unless it involves them handily covering themselves in zombie guts and tip-toeing through a bunch of walkers. And even that is only so often. Can’t use it all the time, that’s cheating the ZA.

Plus there, the walkers are probably frozen solid half the year. Heck yeah, I’d be going north.

Was that the greatest snot bubble in television history?

I see your points, but to clarify mine: It wasn’t the “bit of violence by a dude with a bat” that pushed me away. I can handle graphic violence, or else I shouldn’t be watching a show about people eating each other. It was the extended, drawn out psychological torture of the group. The long, long speeches and threats about how horrible it was going to be for someone, but who? And oh it’s going to be so horrible. Really horrible. The actual violence when it came was not the part that was over the line for me. This psycho torture and mental destruction was about as enjoyable as watching a man hold a cinder block over some kittens and tease me for an hour about which one he’s going to drop it on. Some may enjoy, or tolerate, that kind of torture/misery porn, but I don’t. Last season’s cliffhanger was the same way, but I figured they had played that out and this season would move on. Instead, it wallowed in it even more.

And it’s true that the show was never really about zombies. The biggest truth in the story has always been that the survivors are more dangerous than the walkers. But the story also was about this band of survivors trying to hold on to some humanity and the way they bonded and evolved as individuals. It had violence, it had gore, it had tragedy and despair, but it wasn’t about just depicting sadistic abuse – mental as well as physical – for an extended period while I sit back and try to"enjoy" it.

I suppose it could be argued that this is rightfully where the story went, that Rick and his crew held on as long as they could to some humanity but this nihilism is the state of the world now. It can be said that Rick in particular and his crew in general had to be beaten down this viciously for them to get the message. Okay, that’s the writers’ choice and obviously a lot of viewers accept that as the natural progression. But if that’s where the story has gone, then it’s become a story I don’t want to follow.

(Not trying to argue or convince anyone to agree. But the violence and gore vs. torture issue seems a distinction worth discussing.)

I wonder how many pages the comic used in Glenn’s death.

It still bothers me that Negan let Rick’s group get away with killing at least 50 or more of his guys and still plans to keep them around. That’s ridiculous, Rick’s group does not reach 30 people, keeping them around as slaves after what they’ve shown they can do makes zero sense.

The books are still going on, actually. If they wanted to, the show could go on for another few seasons, easily…especially if they decide to flesh (draw) out episodes involving Morgan and Carol.

I think only one. It was like a horrifying train wreck. It started like Abraham, kind of “Oh no, Glen got hit on the head, that sucks” and he stayed up for a few whacks “taking it like a champ”. But it kept going, creating a slow realization that Glen really was going to die and nothing was going to stop it. It was really powerful, there was an inexorable slide from “Someone is going to die” [Sure, the villains always say that] to [OMG this is really happening].

Much of the anger about the cliffhanger was not that we would have to wait so long to see who died, but that it killed that feeling of dawning horror at the world suddenly turning upside down.

You made me LOL right here at work. Thank you.

Is nobody going to mention Rick’s epic crying snot-bubble…?

Ah, there it is. Oh My God eh.

I don’t know how Maggie didn’t miscarry right on the spot.

As graphic and realistic as the beatings were, I kind of wonder how they did the actual initial hits from Lucille. The first 2 hits to Abraham looked like they made contact, as it was supposed to, so how did they do it I wonder? Because I don’t recall any flashy camera cuts to hide the fact that he didn’t actually hit him.

Fake bat? CGI editing in post production? Just curious really.

Yes. Many props are made of foam. We used a foam crowbar for a scene in First Man On Mars.

She did seem to get over her female troubles rather quickly, given that her distress was the driver for putting the group in jeopardy in the first place.

I will miss Glenn. But life goes on. As does non-life, in the ZA!

That was a lowpoint of GoT. And it was like, 5 minutes an episode or so. This was most of the entire episode. I personally hated the season finale and this wasn’t much better.

I describe it as an hour long episode of a 1 dimensional villain monologuing along side of torture porn. Bleh I’ll probably continue watching but I doubt I’ll pay for it (no cable) and probably not watch it close to when it airs.

A liked the character. Not many others, Rick, Carol and Michonne. (sp)

Reading this thread I am glad I gave up on this show over the summer.

There are multiple reasons.
One is that the overall arc in Season Six was stupid.

Everything after the mid-season break boiled down to the characters acting out of character in order to do stupid things.
After Terminus you would think that Rick and the gang knew when to walk out of a trap, but nope…

But what really cinched it for me is that the narrative voice of the show can no longer be trusted.

It happened halfway through season Six, where Start to Finish ended with Sam calling out repeatedly for his mother.
Except in the next episode, the sequence of events was retconned to shoehorn in ten minutes of wandering through the hordes before Sam demonstrates that he was nothing but bait.

And the directors and producers did it again with the season 6 finale and with this week’s show.

Forget it. I’m not watching a show that lies to the audience from one week to the next.