the world's lonliest doper

I thought I was smart, but numerous dopers on this board have shown me that they are alot smarter than I am so I guess I have no chance of being the world’s smartest doper. So instead I am going to stake a claim for being the world’s loneliest doper. My credentials for the title are as follows:

I got divorced last year and after the divorce I moved from Texas to New Jersey for a job in NYC so I have no contact with my ex. My parents are deceased and I have no other family. I was just starting to get to know a few people at my new job when I changed jobs again. At my latest job the cubes in the office are set up where people don’t even see each other unless they make an effort to so everyone keeps to themselves. I get most of my tasks at work by email, so I literally go days without talking to anyone. I live alone so I don’t talk to anyone at home. I am 46 and there seems no place for someone my age to go and meet someone socially. I don’t like to drink so bars aren’t something that appeal to me and I don’t believe in god, so churches don’t appeal to me. Basically I don’t talk to anyone, anywhere. I don’t consider myself a loner, but somehow I have become totally alone.

So in an attempt to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear, I am laying claim to the title as the world’s loneliest doper.

Let’s See What’s Out There … Engage

Do you want to talk about it?

Stick around here, most of these folks are more than willing to talk to you, or at least AT you! I thought I was lonely, except I don’t mind that much. I was widowed 5 years ago, I work one day a week, and the only humans I spend time with are my own children. They are ok, as kids go, but not my choice for entertainment!


Always remember that you are unique, just like everybody else. MIPSIMS : where we put the fun back in dysfunctional.

Hey, don’t feel bad about not feeling smart around here. There is a high concentration of really sharp tacks around here. A much higher concentration than you would encounter in most people’s daily lives. Uh oh… I feel a new sig line comming on… Sometimes I feel like a real dumb-ass around here… and that’s a good thing. You are going to improve yourself much more quickly by being exposed to those who are your “daddy” in certain topic areas.

If you want to meet people at work, try this… it does not require you to invade anyone’s cubicle. You can make them come to you, and they will make the introductions, thus taking the pressure off of the “new guy (or gal)”.

On your way to work, stop at a bakery and get a box of do-nuts and a bag of bagles. Get enough so that you think they will last at least an hour. When you get to work, make a sign stating that you are giving away food, and put it up over your cubicle so that everyone can see it. Keep the food well in your cubicle so that any takers will have to talk to you, rather than setting the food at the enterance or outside the cubicle. If cost is an issue, stick with just the do-nuts, as they are dirt cheap. Depending on your money situation, I would suggest you do this on the same day every week, or every two weeks. Keep it on a regular schedule. I can practically guarantee that you will meet your co-workers.


Sometimes I feel like a real dumb-ass around here… and that’s a good thing.

Dang… got it wrong. <Change that sig line>


Sometimes I feel like a real dum-ass around here… and that’s a good thing.

I have found most of the people on the board among the clearest speakers I have ever met, so I agree people will talk to (or at) you here, but I am a person with a need to be included or a part of something. So maybe only someone with my need will feel a sense of loneliness in my situation. I hate the circumstances of my life presently but I am at a complete loss how to improve them. When I was 20 and in a new situation I seemed to meet tons of new people, but I am finding at my age now, its not happening.


Let’s See What’s Out There … Engage

The world’s loneliest doper.

Its pretty tough to get back into the mainstream when you have been out of it. I’ve found one of the ways to meet people was to sign up for a course. These days most of the arent gender specific so you have the opportunity to meet a variety of people.


Give your children these two things: One is roots, the other, wings - Wally Wally He’s our Man

Volunteer at something. You’ll meet real people, just people, not old or young, or rich or poor, smart or healthy perhaps. But just people, they are everywhere.


Wisdom is the boobie prize,they give you when you’ve been --unwise!

Try a part-time job in a place where you come into contact with a lot of people. An espresso bar, for example. And be friendly.
Also, you can volunteer for charity work.
The important thing is to get out.
Peace,
mangeorge (55, and single.)


Teach your kids to bungee jump.
One them might have to cross a bridge someday.

I can understand how you feel. Last year I was at pit bottom when it came to lonliness. I think once realized that I had gone five days without speaking outloud. Sometimes I’d go shopping just so I could interact with people.

It was really weird. Usually I don’t have problem getting to know people, but I had moved to a new state and found that people just didn’t mix and mingle and its very culturally dead here. There is nothing going on in town that would entice me to go out at night.

For me, it was the internet that provided the best source of human interaction. Made it all bearable. Luckily I have moved to a new neighborhood and have neighbors my own age, so things have inproved ten-fold.

I like the do-nut idea. Sounds like good advice. You should try it and let us know how it goes.


The right to swing my fist ends
where the other man’s nose begins.
–Oliver Wendell Holmes (1841-1935)

Ls, my friend, I feel your pain. The patrons of this board, and the corresponding AFCA group, are some of the most verbally-endowed people I’ve met online, with a definite flair for witty sarcasm and clever writing. Needless to say, it makes me jealous. I guess it’s only fitting, I mean, look at the name of the board and to whom it’s dedicated–what I’d give to be able to produce writings of Cecil’s calibre on a routine basis. I’m not even the smartest person in my immediate family-- I have to live vicariously through li’l sis the chem major. Sucks for someone who knows he has few redeeming qualities beyond a hefty vocab and has spent so much of his life thinking that would get him somewhere.

Having said all that in my typically sprawling and inscrutable prose, I’ll also say that I too know what you mean about being lonely. I like message boards because I can express my mind and share thoughts with likeminded souls, without stumbling over simple words, toying with my hair nervously, worrying about knocking over my beer on the bar, and all sorts of other “Hi, I have a social phobia!” calling cards. I dropped numerous classes in college upon finding out that one of the requirements was giving a 10-15 minute oral presentation. I can’t stand the pressure of speaking before a group of kids, even if there’s only 30 of them. Never finished school, and probably never will, knowing I’ll probably have to defend a thesis that I know I’m not capable of writing in the first place. When I’m online, I can only be judged by my words, not my physical eccentricities or (mostly perceived, I think) shortcomings in the appearance department. If I’m reviled for what I say, I can live with it. It’s harder to make that concession in real life, face-to-face situations. So yeah, I guess I’m incredibly lonely. I have a very small circle of friends, all but three of whom I met thru one person. I haven’t made a new friend in close to 8 years-- it’s all people I knew in high school.

The thing is, while this depresses me, I can’t say that I’m truly depressed in the clinical or any other sense. I get by just sitting around on the computer, reading books, talking walks, etc. I’m pretty much living inside my own head, and have been for at least two or three years now. Each day I wake up, I keep myself entertained, I do things I enjoy, and take pride in what I do either intellectually or artistically or whatever. Without music, I’m sure you’d have read about me on the evening news by now. I dunno. Loneliness can be hell if you want to make it out to be. While I certainly wouldn’t be opposed to meeting new people and overcoming my little social inhibitions, I feel cautiously optimistic that it’s not necessary for my sanity. We’ll see, though. Maybe in 20 years, if the lung cancer hasn’t set in yet, I’ll have turned into that crusty ex-steel mill worker that only leaves his stinky little apartment to buy more Schlitz.

Eek, sorry to make you read through all that, for those that actually did. Just felt I had to get a little something out of my head and onto “paper.”

Well, why didn’t ya come to the NYC Doperfest?

Where in Jersey are you? C’mon, we’ll have a mini-Jersey-Doperfest!

And if you want to get out more, you should definitely consider volunteering somewhere. There are all sorts of fun things you can do–you don’t have to work in a soup kitchen. Surely there is something that you enjoy that you can do–>I walk dogs at the local animal shelter.

Do you like outdoor sports? Join the Appalachian Mountain Club. Or, Eastern Mountain Sports runs free “clinics” where you go on hikes and things. Call your nearest store for a schedule.

What about a book club? Many local bookstores have them. Maybe the big chains do to. In a book club you will get a chance to see people over several weeks and get to know them.

The part-time job idea and the donut idea are also good ones.

Also, if you are feeling lonely, perhaps you should consider adopting a dog or cat from an animal shelter. Today is the 1-year anniversary of the day we brought Spot home from the Plainfield Area Humane Society. (In honor of the event, I baked him a meatloaf cake with mashed-potato frosting. He was a very happy camper.) He is the first dog I have ever had, and I can’t imagine how I ever lived without one.

Good luck, and email me for gosh’s sake!

I live in Roselle Park, which is about 7 or 8 miles from Newark, New Jersey. I took the PATH train into NYC when I worked there so I got a little human contact then, even if it was a 100 people violating my personal space as we squeezed together. But I now work in White Plains, which is about a 55 mile one way drive from where I live. The money was over twice that at the NYC job, so that is my reason for taking it. However, I am a computer programmer at a company of computer programmers and everyone keeps to themselves and email is the main form of communication.

I thought about the NYC doperfest, but I am afraid I would find myself tripping over my tongue in such elite verbal company. Plus I am 46 and many of these gifted people are in their 20s or 30s. It is bad enough to feel stupid, but really bad to feel stupid around someone much younger than you. I have always been proud of my ability to put my thought into words but the people on this board blow me away with their depth of intelligence and exposure to knowledge.

I will think about the donut/bagel idea, but my cube is in the back in a corner and if I put out a box of donuts/bagels, I would probably eat them all before anyone would come back to my corner.

I would like to get a pet, but I live alone in a house with a very small yard and since I drive so far to work I am not home till 7:30 or so in the evening and I could see possible problems with the pet feeling neglected and if I got a dog and it barked all day and I wasn’t there to correct the problem it might get picked up by the pound.

Other people have suggested classes, but I can’t get excited about that. I may have to accept it is one of the only avenues open to me for meeting people, but I am not hot to the idea yet. Plus I get home so late from work.

Thanks for all the ideas and consideration.
Bruce :slight_smile:

Let’s See What’s Out There … Engage

The world’s loneliest doper.

Bruce, damn if you aren’t bringing a tear to mine eye. I bet half of us reading your posts wish we lived next door to you so we could hang out and keep you company.

I don’t think anyone’s suggestion is good enough. Extreme situations call for extreme measures.

Quit your job.
Move.
Start over.

If you decide to come to Oregon you have a friend already.

I think you win the contest, dude.

I might be lonely if I didn’t hate people so damn much.


Traveling Mountebanks + Mental Institutions always = fun!

Well, howdy neighbor. Get in your car, go West on South Ave. for 4 miles. Turn left at Central. Go 1/4 mile. There I am.

I don’t know the ages of the people at the Doperfest. But Dr.Matrix and Cajun Man have been together for over 20 years. Unless they were high-school sweethearts, they were probably somewhere in your age cohort. Besides, do you really care how old people are? My good friends range from 1 to 92 years old.

Also, people at the Doperfest were not nearly as witty in real life as they are on the board. Of course, many beers might have had something to do with that! Awright, I’m just joshin’. They were terribly fun and witty and good-looking to boot.

Methinks you have a touch of the ol’ self-conscious blues. I’ll bet you’re charming as can be. And if you’re not, I’ll tell you how to fix yourself–if you want.

Can I talk you into brunch at the Bagel Chateau on Saturday? It’d have to be on the early side because I have to go to a $#%! wedding later that day.

Oh, and because you are concerned about such things, I am 28 (but not for long), I’m married, and I am a blithering idiot in person.

I am in my present situation because I already took the extreme measures of moving from Texas first to Colorado Springs and then to NYC to try to get a new start after my divorce. Colorado Springs turned out to be a place with nothing to do socially and when the consulting job I had there ran out I couldn’t find another one. Now I am locked into a lease on the house I live in till the end of August, and after what I have seen of how they do business here in New Jersey, I am sure moving out before the lease is up will screw up my credit rating big time.

I broke a lease on a house in Colorado Springs to move here that cost me 2 months rent, and I spent another $6000 on the 2 moves themselves. It cost me $5200 to move into the house I am leasing in New Jersey (first, last and $2400 security deposit) so I am kind of drained financially and I am kind of reluctant to make another extreme move.

Sake, I appreciate your suggestions, but I am kind of gunshy to take another bold move. By the way, I am a graduate of the University of Oregon. Loved Eugene, but there weren’t any jobs.

Let’s See What’s Out There … Engage

The world’s loneliest doper.

lswote, loneliness can be a terrible thing. I’ve had the same feeling when moving to a new area. I agree with the others that suggested volunteer work. That’s a great way to meet people. I joined a local human rights group (Amnesty International) and have made many close, long-time friends that way.

I don’t know if Amnesty International is a group that appeals to you (I will say that many Star Trek actors are supporters, in particular Patrick Stewart which I met at an Amnesty International event! I mention that because I know you like Star Trek.) But just in case, at the link below you can find a list of the Amnesty International groups in New Jersey. Each local group has a different dynamic, but in general they represent all age ranges (the local group to which I belong has members in age from 12 to retired.) Student groups are usually made of high school or college students.

Amnesty International USA - Local and Student Groups - New Jersey

I’m perhaps not in quite as extreme a situation as you, lswote, but I’m not far down the queue…

Two years ago, all my friends moved away from my home town, except for the one who died. Then I lost my job. Soon after, I decided definitely to move to a new country, leaving my family behind.

I had not enough money, and it was a country I had never been to before (Australia). The first place I stayed (with a friend) was cut rudely short by everyone trying to get rid of me. Ten days. I haven’t had physical contact with them since then (that was a whole year ago).

Another friend I knew in town (met her on ICQ) turned out to not only not be who she claimed (was actually a guy), but also moved away to another city (Sydney) so I was left alone again.

The next place I stayed lasted only six weeks, then I was asked to leave because my quiet unassuming ways were judged ‘too creepy’.

I was lucky to find a job. I was lucky to find another place to live that was cheap and amiable. I do encounter many people in my job, but tend to stay inside a lot when I’m at home. I do have a room-mate, but he’s a redneck plumber football fanatic from the Northern Territory.

I am a 30 year old virgin who has never been kissed, I miss my family, I get paid shitty wages, I am generally a pretty pathetic individual.

But I’m actually mostly happy! :slight_smile:

And I have lots of Internet pals :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:


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When I first came to the board I felt like an idiot. I posted one or two times and then stopped posting for a couple of months. I really felt like I was out of my league and not as intelligent as most poster. Then I thought, so what? I am intelligent, I’ve just never had to post my thoughts before, it’s always been verbal for me. I have a college degree, a technical job that most people are unfamilar with. So it’s not like I’m this blubbering idiot. So I jumped back in, and I’m glad I did. The people on this board are great. I enjoy the wit, humor, and sometimes I’m amazed at what people come up with.
I can’t say that I can relate to your situation. I’ve always been an outgoing person. I can find someone to talk to, now whether they want to talk to me or not is another question, but I can usually get them going. The doughnut idea is good. Or you could move here to the South where everyone will ask you all kinds of personal questions and never bat an eye.
Hey, email me if you wanna converse sometimes. Or if you have icq, my icq number is on my profile, we’ll have a chat there.


** I’m a 'silly little southern belle ass. Sigh. ** Original by needs2know

I’ve learned that if someone says something unkind about me, I must live so that no one will believe it.

You may use the description of pathetic for yourself, but if your happy, only the cynical or unaware would call you pathetic. Thanks for your story and best wishes. :slight_smile:
Bruce