And I"m tired of anyone who says they think the Beatles sucked, just to be shocking.
Geez, gobear, why don’t you just make fun of ALL my favorite bands?
Well … except for the Bee Gees. I’ll give you that one.
“Doubly-doubly-doubly-doubly-down-down-down, Turn Out The Light…”
Or no era is free from crap.
Sorry, Sauron. If it’s any comfort, I really dug “Wheel in the Sky” back when I was 15.
It just seems to me that Sturgeon’s Law is as true for music as for any sphere of artistic endeavour. People have fond memories of the music they listened to in their youth because a) they had immature tastes, and b)because the music is indelibly associated with being young, making out, hanging with one’s friends. I, for one, would like to think that I have gained some cultural sophistication and artistic discrimination since I was 13.
Mind you, it’s impossible to make an objective analysis and say conclusively that the suck quotient of Peter Frampton was less significant to four decimal places than than that of Led Zeppelin due to the eigenvalue of Jimmy Page’s guitar virtuosity multiplied by the Robert Plant vocal coefficent.
Still, I cannot help but think that there is an indefinable something that is present in the music of Led Zep but which is lacking in, say, Nickelback.
MrVisible & jarbaby & Gary Kumquat: Like I said, it’s not necessarily clock-time. It’s just sort of a general ossification of the ability to appreciate new stuff. Maybe “old” isn’t the best term but it’s what sprung to mind.
Trion:
Quite possibly. I don’t really listen to much modern music, so I’m probably not the best apologist. I just get tired of “There has been no good music since the Doors (or whoever)!!” There’s good and bad and if you aren’t willing to search for the good anymore, that’s fine, but please don’t act like some golden age of music is ending.
And as for Duran Duran… well, there’s room for all kinds of opinions on the SDMB I suppose.
–John
What the hell? That’s a slow rolling double post.
It’s okay, gobear. Just don’t go dissin’ Dexy’s Midnight Runners or Men Without Hats.
Kansas rocks.
Carry on.
I no longer listen to the radio. I listen to classical, folk, big band, soundtracks, etc.
Although, there are some current musicians I like, but they are fewer and farther between.
Oh, and as I type this, I’m listening to the soundtrack from “Attack of the Clones”.
Proving once again that John Williams is a god among men.
"I recently discovered a webradio station that is apparently dedicated to the suckiest music of the 50s, 60s, and 70s. “He Hit Me and It Felt Like A Kiss,” anyone? "
Oooooo…What is it? After reading Dave Barry’s list of the worst songs ever, my friends and I downloaded every one. Bad music rocks!
It’s a terrible, terrible song. It trumps even the execrable “Johnny Get Angry.”
I can only find the lyrics in regard to a cover of it that Hole did, but the song is originally by Carole King.
http://membres.lycos.fr/unplugged/lyrics/hole_ly_hehitme.htm
As for “Johnny Get Angry”:
http://www.lyricsxp.com/in/show.asp?ID=5618
–John
I dissent!
You know why your music sucks these days, kid? Because it’s not nearly as fucked up as mine was.
I sometimes like fast music. You have techno. You have kids spinning records to make new stuff, and that’s cool and all…
But, um, my shit was faster. And, excuse me, but where is Satan and the occult in all of this? No Satan? Not cool. Hell, when I was a growing up, I had Satanic Ska bands to listen to. You’ve got to get evil to get any good. Don’t you kids know this?
And what about the drugs and depression? Back in my day, the forward messages were telling you to shoot up smack, while the backward ones were stealing your soon-to-be-released soul. That shit was so good, kids blew their heads off for it, man! Now, they sing about cat tranquilizer and have heart attacks. Boooooring.
And where are your naked, vertically challenged stage performers? You can’t do disturbing nudity anymore because there’s no place to show off the clothing products, 'cause you’re already done bought by The Man.
Sure, today’s music has some similarities to my own, but it’s just not the same. There was a day when my people wore tube socks… on their fucking dicks! I’d like to see Britney pull that one off.
I’m sorry, but until you crawl back into the moral basement, you will never earn my respect–that special kind of respect you can only win by not respecting anything at all. Oh! How I pine for those days again.
But no. I suppose I’m just going to have to sit back and watch you kids make the thirtysomething leap straight from bubblegum pop to Lawrence Welk. We’ll keep the bubble machine on for you codgers-to-be.
Oh, c’mon, Sofa. Look at later day artists like Tupac or Biggie Smalls. You’ve got to give today’s rap artists a little respect for their willingness to gun each other down in the street. I mean, Sid Vicious killing Nancy Spungen was pretty hard core, but this is more like Sid Vicious killing Joey Ramone. That’s some dedicated musical barbarism they’ve got going there.
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Oh, and as I type this, I’m listening to the soundtrack from “Attack of the Clones”.
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You have reminded me that I need to get that CD. How do you like it? (I assume you think it’s fabulous? Just like every other SW score?
As is Jerry Goldsmith (I await his latest score - I think it’s for the new film with Ben Affleck and Morgan Freeman?)
I have loved Goldsmith and Williams since I was 14 years old. I don’t know what I’ll do when these two gentlemen pass away, since they both are no longer in the first bloom of youth. I’ll probably wear black for a year, I think. (But then again - Thomas Newman and Hans Zimmer are considerably younger, so I’ll always have some new film scores to look forward to…)
A song that trumps “Johnny Get Angry”?!? Wow… that i gotta hear 
Not necessarily. I’m 50. I love Manu Chao, Desorden Publico, Vaartina, Saba Habas Mustapha, Akira Satake, and dozens of other groups that play innovative, very different forms of music that are nothing like anything I grew up with.
I hate rap because it’s ugly, not because it’s “new” or different (and it isn’t particularly new anymore, either). I hate most modern pop because it sucks. I am more tolerant of a lot of Oldies, even though they also suck, because that’s what I grew up with.
Gobear, you better take BACK that trash-talk about Paper Lace. Now, mofo!
Yue, we mixed it up here in the pit a little bit (respectfully) before the board meltdown. I had no idea you were a very young fella. You’re mostly right, but there are some dudes still doing it, and some good OLD shit.
David Bowie and Elvis C have been about 3 clicks ahead of the curve for awhile now.
Gobear also said:
Newsflash: The prepondernace of pop music has always sucked!
Too true.
But dude, we went and saw KISS two years ago and it was like being 16 all over again. Tell that to Sugar Ray and Blink 182 and Smashmouth and Eminem and all the other prefab wusses.
This weekend at a big festival in town, chillin’ in lawn chairs:
Hostess: “What do you guys want to hear?”
Stockton: “The Cars, Blondie, Talking Heads, The Clash, Elvis Costello, Culture Club!”
Everyone else: “Yeah!!!”
It was a blast. Didn’t have any 99luftballoons or Modern English, but would have liked to.
NOT a blatant plug, just a public service - surf over to
www.shoutcast.com
and download the winamp player, and listen to any kind of music you want all day and night via the net. My fave is in the 80’s genre, RADIO FREE AKRON. Flock of Seagulls, Kajagoogoo, A-Ha, etc.
I’d like to echo the idea that after one realizes that the music on the radio, MTV, VH1 is whitebread, prepackaged crap, most folks taste just stop with what they already like. This is because finding new and interesting things to listen to is actually a bit like work. I’m as excited and into music as I’ve ever been and I’m constantly getting into new artists and older ones that I was unaware of. For me this involves reading magazines, online forums, downloading songs, and sometimes just buying a CD or record that looks interesting. Most people as they get getting don’t have the time/inclination to search out new things.
That being said, I have to say that I think that commercial pop music is at a low ebb creatively. When I used to hear an old Stone Temple Pilots (a band which I didn’t care for and still don’t) song on the radio I used to change the station. Now its better than most of what gets played. That’s pretty damn sad
Also…I have to step in and defend “He Hit Me and it Felt Like a Kiss” First the music and wall of sound production by Phil Spector is excellent. The wrongness of the lyrics really puts a perverse bow on the whole thing. One of Spector’s best songs IMO.
Nobody is trying to say that the ‘boy band’ music is actually good, right?
RIGHT???