I say that because I’m watching the latest episode which is basically
A group working for the republic is trying to get off some planet when they run across a clone that has amnesia.(Since you know in real life every 3rd person has that.) Anyway they try to get him to remember and he does and realizes, oh no I’m a wage slave. He confronts his boss and basically says the standard you turned me into a slave, I want my freedom back, I want to fight for the republic, blah blah blah. Hey have I ever mentioned the clones are a slave army? Should I point out he goes from being a wage slave to being a slave of the Republic? I mean he was never really given a choice of whether or not he actually wanted to join the army.(When he does go back he’s going to be told when, where, and who to fight so he’s not really a freeman.) Really, the writers should stop bringing up slavery and how it’s horrible when the clones are blatantly slaves from the get go.(Which nobody in the republic seems to notice. I mean the only time you see clones not in the army is when they go AWOL. Are they even allowed to leave or decide at the beginning that they don’t want to be in the army at all?)
Yes, I know it’s just a stupid cartoon but it’s so blatant at times.
This has bugged the shit out of me before, but then I remember the show has become a toy selling cash cow and I’m thankful they even manage to keep it as dark as it already is.
They are very schizo re the clones, sometimes they are evil not to serve, sometimes the republic is evil. There was the arc on Umbara where they dealt with the clones=slaves issue, also there was an episode with a deserter clone who had a family.
The show is never going to come right out and call the republic slave driving monsters, suck it up or stop watching.
EDIT:BTW I wonder what some of the intended audience think of the show, I remember thinking parts of the show were satire of WW2 era propaganda, I can’t imagine a five year old getting that.
I thought that was meant to be Shaak Ti, an already-introduced member of the Jedi Council from the same species (and that Shaak Ti’s death did not canonically happen until that video game set between III and IV, which is why they deleted that scene).
I’ve actually posted before about what a moral mindfuck that show is. The breeding an army of clone slave soldiers to use as cannon fodder is the most obvious, but the entire Jedi order gives me the creeps. They take babies and raise them to be warrior monks. What happens if one of those kids decides he or she doesn’t want to be a Jedi? Every episode also starts with a supposedly child friendly moral or a lesson, but the lessons are derived from half baked Jedi philosophy about how to be a better warrior monk. The chief protagonist of the program is Darth Vader, and by the Star Wars timeline he’s already slaughtered an entire tribe of Sand People, including the women and children. Granted, I would probably also be very unkind to people if they had killed my mommy. Still though, heroes of children’s programs generally don’t commit genocide against their enemies.
It’s a shame because the show is visually stunning and often comes up with fun adventures for their morally bizarre characters to participate in.
I also hope the show has the guts to kill off Skywalker’s apprentice. Having her get killed of on some questionable mission she was ordered on by the council may help buttress his rather sudden conversion to the Dark side in the films. Which sort of goes into another weird area of Jedi morality. “Congratulations, you’re a Jedi Knight. Now here’s an adolescent girl in a tube top who’s going to follow you around calling you ‘Master.’”
Aside from the frequent redshirting of previously-unseen clone troopers, and the incredible bungling of both Jedi and clones when they’re trying to catch somebody (including the Inapproprately Dressed Jedi Intern when she was on the run in the most recent story arc), the show is, as SecEvil says, visually stunning and often fun.
I don’t know how much of the show you’ve seen, but that is absolutely the point. This show has not shied away at all from the twisted morality of the Jedi or Republic, see the Umbara arc where we examine whether the clones are men or military equipment.
Another thing I loved about the show was showing us just how shitty things are for the poor on Coruscant.
I’m very dissapointed we won’t even get to see the arcs they moved back to make room for the kid jedi and droids shit this season, couldn’t they at least have given the show a sixth season to wrap it up.:mad: This show is my favorite Star Wars media next to the original trilogy, I found the show had captured the mood and aesthetics of the original trilogy perfectly.
I liked this show better than the prequel trilogy.
The argument behind the cancellation seems to be that as the focus is now on new movies set in a markedly different era, they should reduce confusion and make a new animated series set between the original trilogy and the new sequel trilogy.
As usual with Executive Decisions, they are short-sighted and think their audience are too stupid to understand things that aren’t spoon-fed. Finishing up the series with a half-season that bridges the final gap wouldn’t be so hard. Then subsequently moving into a new era, after the first sequel has been released, is the logical step.
Considering there’s been rumours of spin-off movies that span the entire known timeline, I can’t see that there’s any need to abandon this series in the unlikely event it may cause audience confusion.
If we’re talking about the CGI series, I watched one or two episodes and was incredibly disappointed that it’s just a really lame kid’s show. Ages 6 to 13 maybe. Terrible scripts, one dimensional characters, stilted & cliched voice performances. Basically, shit.
The original cell-animated Genndy Tartakovsky series was really cool. Better than the prequel movies in fact!
I think you’re a bit too harsh on the current series, although you’re right that the Tartakovsky series was very, very good.
I also agree with GuanoLad that a half-season wrapup would be nice; I’ll be sorry to see Clone Wars end so abruptly because
we were left on a semi-cliffhanger, with Ahsoka leaving the Jedi Order after no one but Anakin stood up for her when she was falsely charged with murdering a Separatist conspirator.
Wow! I really feel like an idiot, since I actually like this show. Yes I see things that are wrong with it, and yeah the “steal kids at birth to raise them as warrior monks” aspect of the Jedi has bothered me since it was introduce by Lucas, but at it’s heart the show actually delivers good adventure, good action, and likeable characters.
This last is to me rather important. Far too many genre show (BSG, Walking Dead, I’m looking at you) are populated by wall to wall assholes who we are somehow supposed to care about. Far too many writers (I guess others here would call them the good ones), seem to think that the more flaws you put into a character, the better the writing. Thus characters should be all flaws, and no positive traits whatsoever.
Even Aankin, who we know is destined for evil, actually comes across as a likable character who, unlike the whiny emo bitch in the movies, shows actual development from hero to dark side, and comes across as someone who 1. Padme would actually want to fall in love with, and 2. Obi Wan would refer to as a "good friend" in A New Hope. This Anakin falling to the dark side and becoming Vader would be the tragedy that was intended, the twerp from the movies falling to the dark side was no tragedy, just a annoying kid sealed in a can .
I even find myself liking Jedi Intern Girl, as she has been showing some degree of character development (and oddly enough, become more likeable, the more clothes she puts on).
Yes, I know that I'm wrong, but I can live with that.
That wasn’t a surprise; it was said early on that the show would last about 100 episodes.
Though I found this season mostly forgettable – I was actively annoyed by the droids arc and the kids arc, because I found no reason to care about what happened to any of the characters – I enjoyed both the beginning and the end of it. Ahsoka-heavy episodes are always good, and I was quite pleased when she told the Jedi to fuck off at the end. I prefer to think that the last movie begins about a month after the finale, and that the last decent thing Anakin Skywalker ever did was destroy all records that might have led the Emperor to her.
Right there with you on the droids arc. Both it and the kids arc felt like they could have been single filler episodes, to have both, one after another, and last several episodes, was a waste of half a season that could have been much better spent.
