This thread on Trans Ettiquette. What the fucking fuck.

The OP that triggered all this was a social gathering of friends. At least some of them knew already. And it wasn’t even what I would consider gossip - it was mentioned in passing.

I assume at least some of you understand what it is like to have friends IRL. You can talk about the details of each other’s lives - you don’t have to walk on eggshells, and if people are eager to take offense, especially on behalf of someone else, it is not the end of the world. Perhaps I’m wrong about that.

:shrugs: RO on the Internet.

Regards,
Shodan

Ok, consider you are with a social gathering of friends. Some of whom don’t know that Joe lost a testicle to cancer. Do you think it is YOUR place to tell the rest of them that information?

How would you know?

Of course it is his place.

If he doesn’t blab it out to the group, then someone else might first, and then he won’t get the satisfaction of being seen as the one “in the know”.

Oh right! :smack:

None of my friends can keep a secret.

Regards,
Shodan

Everyone you know IRL is a friend?

You actually made the claim about not knowing any transsexuals in real life, not that you knew you didn’t have any among your friends.

That aside, the same question applies. How would you know? If they had secrets they didn’t tell you, you wouldn’t know they were doing that. Unknown unknowns, and all that.

THE details, not ALL details. Numerous examples about personal medical information or somewhat-known-but-embarrassing information have been provided in this and the other thread.

For people who don’t have any terror of being fired or abused or beaten up for being cisgender, and who believe their experience is that of the world, and aren’t capable of showing any compassion or tolerance towards others…I guess.

If I was in a social gathering of friends and someone else was mentioned who had cancer, am I allowed to say “I was sorry to hear she had cancer. How is she doing?” or no good?

Very specifically the example of a high school reunion, where everyone there knew the person pre-transition, are you meant to not share old photos, etc., memories, etc. featuring that person? If the old name is “dead” and would hurt them if they see it, do old trophies, pix, etc., have to be removed?

You CAN say that. Or, if you really cared how she was doing, you would ask HER directly how she was doing. Something like “Oh, I didn’t hear that. I’m going to go ask her how she is doing. I’ll be sure to tell her you told me she had cancer if she asks how I know”

That way, the gossiper doesn’t get the satisfaction of continuing to gossip, AND you get to make them feel stupid for gossiping in the first place.

It’s win-win really.

OK, it’s gossip to ask after the health of your loved ones. Good to know.

How would you not know that a loved one had cancer? Also, I wasn’t aware we were talking about “loved ones” but instead various non-related, non-loved social acquaintances.

No, I don’t consider talking to my Mom about my Dad to be gossip. Come on.

If a casual mention by a friend is going to put one’s life at risk, then maybe it needs to be kept even from one’s friends.

“From now on you should call me Jane and refer to me as a woman, but don’t ever breathe a word about it” is a little problematic among friends.

Regards,
Shodan

Thing is, as is true for a lot of these discussions, for people on one side like Darren it’s just a abstract academic discussion about a topic, like whether Alexander the Great or Genghis Khan was the greater general. Absolutely zero stakes.

For other people, it’s their life.

It’s amusing to flip the conversation. “John was actually born with his cock!” Try it at your next party!

I would do something wacky and ask the person in question. Some might be fine with sharing, some might prefer not to.

Or maybe they just need better friends that don’t get personal satisfaction from revealing personal details about their “friends.”

There may be a reason that you don’t know any transexuals, they may very well be keeping it a secret from you.

“Don’t tell Shodan, it’s not that I have a problem with people knowing, it’s that he needs to make sure that everyone knows.”

:slight_smile:

“I think it’s okay to tell other people if I know someone is transgender and they don’t”

“No one has ever told me they were transgender”

:):slight_smile: