That was the wacky sidekick talking, not the hammer - she called it “meow-meow,” in a reference to one of her lines in the first movie.
In regards to the whole “Holy Hell Sif is smoking hot what the hell is he thinking” controversy…
Remember, even if Thor and Jane are romantic partners for the next 60 years it is - at best - a summer fling for Thor. She’ll age and die and he won’t. Then Sif will still be there because Asgardians have the advantage of being able to take the long view in all things.
Heck, Sif could be thinking something similar, “Let him get it out of his system, then I’ll have him for good.”
The Dark Elves clearly escaped from Svartalfheim and traveled to Asgard and Earth through normal space, so as far as I can figure the Nine Realms are just nine inhabitable worlds within our own universe which are somehow bound together by Yggdrasil and accessible by Bifrost. Whatever world the Collector is situated on is (probably) not part of the Nine Realms; nor is the world the Chitauri come from, or Thanos’ world.
Since when have people ever made perfectly logical and reasonable decisions about who they fall in love with? Besides, the Marvel universe being what it is, there’s nothing to say they couldn’t whip up some sort of immortality potion for her in a future movie, or come up with a “She was an Asgardian all along who was abandoned on Earth as a baby” plot twist later on to avoid the inevitable heartbreak.
Maybe Sif never recognised Thor’s most secret desire: to be hit by a van.
I’d think hitting each other with large, blunt implements would be a standard part of most Asgardian courtships.
So, like Klingons, but less love poetry.
I can handle that.
There was even a good spot in the movie to bring this up. Jane is berating Thor for being gone for so long, telling him it’s been two years. Thor’s been alive for centuries, two years would be nothing to him.
I’m right there with you.
Given the power levels involved and hints in the trailer, I think she’ll be prominent in the next Captain America movie. I’d be surprised if they ever give her a standalone, though.
I could have used Sif’s plotline getting fleshed out the way it did for the other Asgardians, but for someone who was only okay on the first Thor movie, I kinda loved this one. It got so many of the small moments so right. Placing the hammer on that tiny hook? Great.
Just saw it this evening and I enjoyed it. It lived up to my expectations.
One question I have though is about the final scene:[spoiler]We see Odin telling Thor he’s finally fit to be King and apparently offering to abdicate in Thor’s favor. But Thor essentially says “Thanks but no thanks, I’d rather go to Earth to be with Jane.”
Then after he leaves, it’s revealed it wasn’t really Odin; it was Loki impersonating Odin. So what game was Loki playing by offering the throne to Thor? Was he somehow convinced that by offering Thor the throne he’d reverse psychology him into wanting to go back to Earth? That seems unlikely; it’s pretty clear Thor didn’t need a push in that direction. Or did Loki have some plan to put Thor on the throne and then impersonate Thor? If so, he seemed unconcerned about his plan failing.[/spoiler]
And thumbs down to having not one but two stinger scenes (the second of which I missed). I hate having to sit through a ten minute crawl of end credits just to catch a ten second scene.
Didn’t the Avengers have two as well? One with Thanos plotting to retrieve the Tesseract, the other the team eating schwarma?
Didn’t one of the comics have Odin grant her “immortality”, then strip it from her and after she failed a test of his?
Based on Loki’s comment it seems the Asgardian lifespan is about 50 times longer than the human one; which means Thor’s already about 1500 years old. Two years for Jane would be like two weeks for him and two years for him wound be a century for her.
That of course assumes that because you live 50 time longer, a given moment is 50 times less meaningful.
Just because he’ll experience a lot after and a lot before doesn’t mean that those 40 years would be any less precious to him.
Personally, I’ll likely live 7 to 10 times longer than my cat. But when it complains on our return from a long weekend my response isn’t “what? that may have been three days for you but it was only a few hours from my perspective.”
Another thing I noticed was that strange way Hogun (Tadanobu Asano) essentially dropped out of the movie. He was there in the early battle scene alongside Thor’s other companions. And then there was the scene where Thor told him to take a break and spend some time with his family.
I expected this was a set-up. When they were showing Thor’s escape from Asgard, we saw the other companions - Heimdall, Sif, Volstagg, Fandral - each assisting Thor in turn. I anticipated there would be some further desperate situation where it looked like Thor, Loki, and Jane were trapped - and Hogun would reappear to save them. And it would be a moment of “Oh, right, I forgot about him.”
But it never happened. There was one brief cutaway scene where we saw Hogun but all he was doing was seeing the effects of the battle from a distance. He had no effect on the story and you could have easily eliminated his character entirely.
Saw it last night and really, really liked it. It was a dozen times more entertaining and well paced than the first Thor movie, which I didn’t really care for that much. The humor was great and the acting was very decent. Good, entertaining flick.
Probably tie it in with the existing story and say that exposure to the Aether made her immortal.
Does it really matter in this movieverse if she’s mortal? The movieverse is all tied in, if Jane dies of old age, so does Tony Stark, Black Widow, Hawkeye and Bruce Banner (I think?). They aren’t thinking that far seeing as the Avengers seem to be the point.
I also expected him to show up again as well. Especially when the battle went back to his home.
Separately, I mentioned this in my prior post but am I the only one who thinks it’s possible to interpret the end as
Loki really is redeemed. Odin is safe and sound and felt Loki’s actions earned him the Kingdom and he made him King since Thor didn’t want it. Loki’s deception of Thor was just him testing to see what Thor really thought of him (Loki).
I’m not saying that;s what definitely happened but I could see it being meant to be that way. To me it was ambiguous.
Also maybe now a couple of weekends in would it be okay to stop spoiler boxes?
Both the director and Anthony Hopkins have been open about what that scene means, but I agree it is open ended as presented in the movie.
Spoiler from not in the movie:
[spoiler]The director and Anthony Hopkins both have said that Odin is dead and that Loki killed him. Additionally, Hopkins has said he doesn’t have any interest in doing any more of these.
Of course, if someone changes Hopkins’s mind, they can go a different way.[/spoiler]
I’d forgotten about him but I think it was intended to show that the war to settle down the realms Odin had just mentioned would take some time was wrapping up. As indicated by him giving members of his crew some R&R.
Interesting theory but I have a hard time accepting it.Loki is, after all, deceiving everyone by impersonating Odin (whom he presumably killed and definitely usurped). It’s hard to say he’s reformed when he’s holding the throne under those circumstances. A good ruler would be ruling as himself.But thinking about this, it could answer my previous question.[spoiler]It might have been Loki’s intent to kill Thor during Thor’s private audience with “Odin” when he presumably would have had his guard down. Loki had replaced Odin but he probably regarded Thor as an ongoing threat. His plan was probably to call Thor in, offer him the throne, and then kill Thor at the moment he thought he had won everything.
Instead Thor unexpectedly turned down the throne and revealed he wanted to leave Asgard indefinitely - so he now appeared as much less of a threat. And he spoke well of Loki to “Odin” - which Loki hadn’t expected either. So Loki decided to spare Thor and let him go into exile.[/spoiler]