Thought about Anne Hathaway and The Dark Knight Rises

Ok, there’s one. In a typical Adam West Batman you’d get half a dozen of them in 22 minutes!

I’m going to agree with Skald the Rhymer here. They were his mother’s pearls and not just the ones she was wearing when she died. It’s supposed to be a sign that he’s letting go of his fixation on the murder of his parents and open to love again and whatnot. Plus she’d probably steal them anyway if he didn’t give them to her. :wink:

So…he ran down there afterwards, and ran areound the alley, picking up pearls.? Wow!

“I’ve built dozens of bridges, but do they call me Ian the Bridge Builder?”

Your second point is well taken though.

Well, of course it is. I just meant that if it’s not this that creeps her out, it’s going to be something else. Bruce is not a well man.

We’re talking about Alfred here: simultaneously the most superficially-well-adjusted person in the Batfamily, and the most irresponsible.

Also his love interests keep dying.

Alfred’s or Bruce’s?

Well, what’s he supposed to do? He did the only thing he really could do in DKR; he quit. This is why too much money is bad sometimes. A poor or middle class person could not hide inside their house for years and years easily; we have to go out to make a living and cannot just live off the interest of our money. Bruce can sit in his home for eight years. What’s Alfred supposed to do, physically haul him out?

I meant Bruce’s (Rachel and then Marion), unless there is a lot of subtext in the TDK movies that I missed.

I wasn’t talking about anything that happened in DKR. I meant that he should have worked harder to get Bruce into therapy as a lad. Also (and outside the scope of the movies), I mean abetting the serial child endangerment.

To be fair, Rachel was only Bruce’s love interest in his mind. Her death had nothing to do with him or even Batman; it was because she was doing Harvey.

It seems obvious to me that the police collected the pearls during their investigation and returned them when they were done. I’m sure when two of the richest people in the city die they got the CSI treatment.

Agreed…but honest question. In a universe where there are Jokers and the Scarecrow is a therapist*, is it even worth going to one?

*Wasn’t he one? Or something like it?

Take your facts back to Wales where they belong!

Yeah, Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow would be a bad choice for a therapist. But surely there are better ones. Of course, if Bruce had ever gotten drugs, couch time, and occasional electroshock he so clearly needs, none of the Bat-movies would ever have gotten made. Except possibly the Adam West one.

“Surely there are better ones”…again, I refer you to Joker, Riddler, Harley Quinn, and Arkham Asylum. Arkham alone should rest my case. Clearly the shrinks in Gotham City are only sane because the rules say they are.

What did I just say about bothering me with your facts? Do you WANT me to beat some scapegoat with a wet sturgeon in youur place?

Honestly, though, Alfred should have gotten young Bruce the fuck out of Gotham. Take the kid to Metropolis for Athena’s sake.

I just realized, I totally, totally disgregarded your comment about facts. I just scanned over it and my mind said “Who cares, move on. SHRINKS!”

That was a bit silly of me! But if there is sturgeon-beating, sure, I will bug you with more facts.

I will admit that I’m about as far from a Batman expert as possible. When I was a kid I watched the TV show every chance I got, and I’ve seen all of the movies, but I have never read a single comic book, nor have I ever really watched any Batman cartoon. (Maybe Super Friends a few times.)

But looking at threads with people who are such experts, it seems that Nolan deviated from canon a good deal. Nicholson’s and Ledger’s Jokers are quite different, as are Pfieffer’s and Hathaway’s Catwoman. And the two versions of Two Face are very different.

I don’t know which versions of these characters are closer to the comic books, but clearly someone is not being 100% faithful to them.

So to suggest that Nolan may have had one character be both Catwoman and Batgirl doesn’t seem all that outrageous to me. Not any more outrageous then Edward Nigma having a brain-sucking device, anyway.

Ok, in that sense I guess she’s not “Catwoman, hear me roar”. She’s “The Cat”, a very good cat burglar who breaks into Bruce Wayne’s safe because he’s rich and it’s a challenge and why the fuck not? She’s very close to Catwoman but not 100% but she is far further from Batgirl than that. She doesn’t share many aspects with Batgirl.

Come to think of it, have any of the Batman movies ever included Batgirl? I mean, isn’t Batgirl Gordon’s daughter (or niece)? Sometimes at least?

Batman & Robin includes Batgirl. If you haven’t seen it, I urge you not to watch rectify that. If you absolutely must watch it because, I dunno, you convert to Catholicism and go to confession and the priest tells you to do it ti as absolution for causing people to be beaten with wet sturgeons, then just watch the first sequence, when the title characters foil the museum heist.

But really, just skip it.

ETA: Your “hear me roar” remark reminds that that Michelle Pfeiffer’s character in Batman Returns, while called both Selina Kyle & Catwoman, was pretty far from the comics–much further than Hathaway. She wasn’t a jewel thief, for one thing, and was fixated on revenge on a particular person, for another. Comics Catwoman doesn’t have time for revenge quests. There are museums to rob, pimps to beat up, vigilantes to fuck. If you piss her off, she’ll claw your eyes out immediately, and then she’s done.

Haven’t seen it. Is that the one with Mr. Freeze? I was thinking about watching it just for the camp. It’s the great thing about Netflix; I don’t have to go to any extra lengths to get movies at home.

The first Batgirl is Barbara Gordon, James Gordon’s daughter. She later became Oracle when Joker shot her and put her in a wheelchair.

Alicia Silverstone played Batgirl in one of the most awful films ever made, Batman & Robin. She pre-chewed all of the scenery in every shot she was in.