Happy 4th of July everyone! Let us celebrate with a classic little number from Woody Guthrie.
I’ll vote for that!!!
LOL, we’ve started a monster
Keep on Rockin’ in a Freeworld…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI8XVJiqHdc
Monuments and schools named after the founder of the KKK. Church burnings. Lynchings. The KKK. Stone Mountain.
Really? This is how you view human life? You saved 3 people so now you’re entitled to 3 kills? Yeah, I’ll stand by my previous statement that you’re just itching to kill someone. If it makes you feel any better I’ll pretend that you’re an equal opportunity would-be killer.
You and Scylla both are making idiotic arguments. And I don’t think the word credentials means what you think it does.
No, you dimwitted peckerhead. The South is where plenty of black folks live because they were unable to afford to be able to move during one of the Great Northern Migrations.
They didn’t reside in the South because they were overly fond of legally sanctioned wholesale lynchings, nor did they elect all on their own with the full spectrum of civil rights at their disposal ( NOT ) to continue to reside in a South filled with state-sanctioned laws designed to abuse and humiliate blacks of all ages and genders.
No. It’s not by choice.
Now, ya’ll jes’ keep dem blindahs strapped awhn and keep on keepin’ on down by dat ole Waffle House.
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Against their will, doncha know.
No. First of all I am not dumb in the least. Academic and work results demonstrate that quite well. Insults based on me being stupid always fall on deaf ears because, although I may not be the smartest person in world, I am in the top 1% although I can’t draw well to save my life. You have to pick a more appropriate insult. Douchebag or asshole are much better choices. The chances are outstanding that I am both smarter and make more money than you despite being a person raised in rural Louisiana.
Are you personally dumb enough to think that black people are incapable of moving somewhere else that is more advantageous? A lot of them did and got burned by the experience. Los Angeles, Chicago and Detroit have black populations that have not fared well at all in general. There has been a reverse migration back to the South for many of them. That is ancestral home and the vast majority of Southerners know that and welcome them back.
This thread is about discrimination based on being born or living in the South. I thought that people would ask me for cites but they were not necessary because plenty of people were perfectly willing to spew hate speech based on nothing but a vague and general geographic description. Can you take a step back in your own mind and see why that just might be considered hypocrisy?
Huh. That’s funny. You really don’t seem that smart.
As I said upthread, folks like myself take notice.
I apply the laugh test. Flying the rebel flag over the state capitol is preposterous. Statues and streets devoted to Forrest are ridiculous. (Easy fix: change the street name to Forest.) Take off the clown suit and stop slipping on banana peels and I will no longer laugh at you.
My views of the Deep South have shifted over the past month. Just as they did when I learned of African American return migration to the region. As for individuals flying the so-called Confederate flag wherever they live, I apply the LHoD taxonomy: they are either bigots, ignorant folk or assholes.
You forgot to add:
"And it was explicitly stated to represent racism by the people in government when they put the thing on state government property. They even used the term “White man’s banner”.
Lots of people are calling Shagnasty dumb and redneck and peckerwood and words like that. I don’t think he is stupid. I don’t think he is a bad person. I know a lot of people, presumably, a lot like him. I don’t agree with most of what Shagnasty says but but that does not make him stupid or a peckerwood. He has some issues he feels strongly about. Maybe, just maybe, and I’m really really not blaming anyone for anything, maybe if you listened to him a little more you might see he is simply trying to tell you the south is not as bad as you think it is. Or, maybe that it’s not entirely full of racists. Not that anyone is saying that exactly. It’s just that our debates get pretty heated.
Thank you Robert163 and I mean that sincerley. You summed it up quite well. I know I insulted you earlier but I want to apologize for that without any irony. I am not a bad person and so aren’t the vast majority of Southerners. It just gets really irritating to have to listen over and over how your whole region is fatally flawed and you can never escape it no matter what you do (simple flags won’t work; trust me - it will be something else next month).
Well as long as I can cheer for the Georgia Bulldogs and you can cheer for the LSU Tigers, we will be ok 
Did people from Tulane cheer for LSU in SEC football?
Jesus, I put out a contract on Rizzo in '91. What more can I do?
Something I was thinking: Many southern whites were dirt farmers, hired hands, and other people too damn poor to own slaves and may have been jealous that slaves got three square meals a day–traditionally management takes better care of its livestock than its hirelings. I am familiar with how the American Dream has always been more aspirational than realistic for many people, where Pap Finn, barely eking out a living in a few acres of marshland, could dream of a house on the hill and slaves to fetch his jug, but Huck VI has only climbed (clumb? done clumb?) as high as a single-wide on the highest point in the marsh.
This is his real background but is this the Southern Heritage he’s celebrating when flying that flag from his cliched 1990 F150, as seen in that video? 'Cuz plantations and magnolia blossoms and gallant cavaliers and beautiful southern belles are somebody else’s family history, not his. He comes from desperately-poor stock, same as the rest of us. His being from Down South is nothing special, just an accident of an ancestor who turned left instead of right when he got off the boat.
Most of my kin left the Little House in the Big Woods as soon as they could. I never visited it and was surprised that my great-uncle didn’t sell it until a few years ago. I know my family history and have no need to celebrate my Cheesehead Heritage except at dinner. (BBQ ribs are nice, but terribly messy for the amount of meat you get. I’ll have a bratwurst on a bun with sauerkraut and good German mustard, thanks.) So why do so many Southerners cling to this fantasy of their own?
That you ‘know a lot of people like him’ only confirms what people think of the south, I’m afraid. Kinda lame apologists. Too tone deaf to hear no one has any patience for this bullshit any more.
It’s the 21st freaking century! And there are still statues to persons who fought FOR slavery and their ilk commemorated at every turn? Public statuary, street names, etc.
So tone deaf. And all this time later, still totally invested in glorifying persons bringing a country to war over the right to enslave others. Gloriously dying in the name of that cause. And they, gosh darn, just can’t understand why outsiders have such a problem with it!
And then all butthurt because others perceive them to be backward, slow, behind and a little racist. At the very same time they are fighting their hardest to protect their rights to be all those things if they so choose! And can’t really understand why, oh why, do they see us in this negative way?
No, you’re not.
Referring to the hateful acts of Southern racists is not hate speech, but keep fucking that chicken.
Ok, I took a step back. Nope, no hypocrisy.
I’d say “Southern Apologist”, one step short of a Neo-Confederate. But he’s not stupid. However, he’s not getting the point… or he is getting it but refuses to back down.