[QUOTE=Triskadecamus]
Reply to: ** What Exit**
You imply that my admonition to others is a blanket endorsement of Liberal’s posting habits. That implication is not unique to you. I am accused of being his sycophant at times. I am assumed to be on his side of any argument. (My experiences in discussions with him outside of this venue make that assumption in particular rather humorous, but it is not a board visible matter.) The fact that I don’t correct this bias is not proof that it is accurate. It is fairly strong evidence that I think the accusation implicit in it is uninteresting, and choose not to engage it.
Whatever blame my post might place on others, it in no way absolves Liberal of responsibility for the nature of his interactions with the board in general, nor individual posters in particular. Primarily it does not because I lack authority to absolve such responsibility. It may be that I see the consequences to him more clearly than he does himself, but that is a matter not amenable to proof.
Now I will say without weaseling that I find the frequent blather and uproar over “The Things That Liberal Said” make the phrase tempest in a teapot a gross over exaggeration. The expressed levels of rage are mind boggling. And oddly enough I have interacted with many of those same posters in an entirely civilized way, agreeing, or disagreeing in turn without undue emotion.
Now, about the concept of “enabling” some perceived self destructive or self injurious behavior. The matter was well in motion before I searched my name and found myself mentioned in a thread I had never read. I posted with some degree of amusement that I would be the bagman. This decision has produced more emotion from others than it deserves. The offer, and counter offer were made before I agreed. My agreement was offered in order to make it clear that no subsequent quibbling would be possible. (A vain hope, as it turns out, but not a real problem.) Both parties accept that I am not subject to further supervision on the matter, and my relationship with the SDMB remains unaltered by it.
If you feel that my decision makes me culpable in some way for some ineffable harm done to the social fabric of the SDMB community, you have not convinced me that that is a reasonable assessment. You are free to hold to it, of course, and adjust your impression of my character according to it if you feel it is pertinent.
Tris
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Thank you for the very polite reply. I only posted the retort to you as it seemed like you were dismissing the reasons that some have a dislike or lack or respect for **Liberal ** as being their fault and not Lib’s.
My comments about enabling concerned both Lib & PRR as Poly and at one other had refused to be the bagman. I do not believe we have ever had a problem before in even a small way, I did not realize you were **Liberal’s ** friend until very recently. I did and still do think you are a smart, savvy and interesting poster. I did not like this act of yours, but hey, eventually someone was probably going to be the bagman from the way the thread was going. So no big deal. Really, I was just hoping you did see where **Liberal ** causes some of his own problems.
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
Well, for my part, it was about me amusing myself rather than any political or philosophical point I was trying to advance. Frankly, What Exit struck me a big ol’ wet blanket and I tried not to engage him/her more than I absolutely had to.
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I know and you are right, I was being a big wet blanket, but for whatever reason, I did care about stopping the payoff.
As long as we are all here to entertain you, did you enjoy the pitting at least? You seemed to. 
Quiddity Glomfuster, I hope and fully believe we can interact on the rest of the board in a friendly matter, but arguing with you on Liberal is doing none of us any good, (well except maybe Bryan). I believe we have had no other problems. We obviously strongly disagree on this.
One last note: I do not hate Lib, I have never said I hated Lib. I have no problem with his politics. I largely stayed out of religious debates and had little problem with Lib. You and **Lib ** and apparently Bryan, do not understand why I think buying off an annoying poster to go away is such a lowly thing to do. **Lib ** insists that I just do not understand his reasons. I insist he does not understand my point of view.
Jim {Bryan, thank you for allowing me to add a little levity to my post. It is much appreciated}
Og knows you do not need to agree with us, but you should at least have the decency to acknowledge that we can feel what we feel without your needling ridicule. As someone that wants to spread love and joy, I think you need to work on your delivery methods. You appear to be using a pickaxe where a cup would work much better.