I respond in a negative fashion to bullies. You’d have gotten no respect and no fear from me.
There’s where your argument fails. Under Your Power? Riiight.
Remember this ol’ cowboy saying, Marty: “There ain’t no hoss that can’t be rode and there ain’t no rider that can’t be throwed.”
There’s always a way.
PS: As (I assume) one adult to another, I hope your attitude has matured over the years.
Does this apply to her parents having sex as well?
If he is an adult, and he’s serious about this, I wonder if it’s been worth it in the long term.
Reminds me of a Peanuts strip. Paraphrased:
Lucy: I’m gonna push your snowman over and there’s not a thing you can do about it!
Linus: Oh yes there is.
Lucy: HA! Like what?
Linus: When you grow up and get married, and you and your husband want to buy a house, and you need to get a loan from the bank and you ask me to co-sign the note, I won’t sign.
Lucy: [walks away dejected]
A lady calls the police to say that when she looks out her window she can the see man next door naked, and, of course, she is shocked and appalled.
A police officer arrives to investigate and looks out her window. “But madam,” the officer says, “I can’t see anything over there.”
“Well,” the lady says, “You have to stand on the dresser and then lean out and to the left.”
They don’t. They barely speak to eachother. It’s like having divorced parents except they’re still together.
Meh, whatever. Much of the righteous indignation in this thread against her brother centered around the pregnancy issue. If pregnancy is a concern, it is legitimate to offer alternatives that do not carry the risk of pregnancy. If the parties are so young that their delicate sensibilities would be offended, then my position is that they shouldn’t be the one starting the conversation about pregnancy and masturbation in the first place.
Several posters have mentioned that they feel the OP seemed mature. I disagree. Mature people do not whine about other people sharing intimate moments. If mature people find themselves too “up close and personal” in other people’s business, they generally remove themselves from the situation quickly and tactfully.
Arguments such as “why should she have to alter what she is doing” is an example of the height of immaturity. Maturity is the process by which we learn that there are other people in the world, and that the world does not revolve around us.
Wow.
2 whole pages of back-and-forth among adults, concerning a petty snipe from a middle-school-aged girl at her teenaged brother for doing kissy-stuff with his girlfriend.
Usually, this board is pretty cool. But this thread is a real low.
I know there are other people in the world. I know the world does not revolve around me. I am not 7. My brother and his girlfriend were making out about 6 feet away from me. They wouldn’t even close the door, even when I politley asked them to. I got mad about it, like anyone would. I shouldn’t have to leave the house when my brother gets the urge.
I didn’t ask you to read this. I was just venting.
Damn straight. Or do you think it’s a good idea for parents to forget about a bit of discretion when their kids are around? Kids should have the opportunity to grow up in a normal home, not some creaking and moaning porn studio.
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Brutus, careful with your definitions. For most of human history a normal home included a common bed for everyone in the household. Not that long ago, a good host would offer a stranger a bed with his eldest unmarried daughter. Normal changes with cultures, and with the times. Even here in the US, while there is a common belief that a bedroom of their own is normal for all children, it is not uncommon for many children, not just in large or less well off families, to share bedrooms.
What about families living in apartments with paper walls? Do mom and dad have to drug their kids to be allowed to have some nookie?
I admit, I’m posting to complain about a pet peeve - modern US morality is not the norm for humanity. And it is unlikely to ever be the norm.
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Mature people also know better than to be “up close and personal” around someone else who has expressed a desire to not see it. They will remove themselves, quickly and tactfully, to a more private spot. Closing the door would be a mature thing to do. The OP’s brother won’t do that.
I don’t think the OP is following her brother around, hoping to “catch him in the act.” He’s being unsubtle and indiscreet.
flamingbananas, I was through this when I was a teen (only from your Brother’s side of the equation).
I was the big sister. I never “made out” in the house at all (my Mother would kill me and that’s what the Drive In was for, right?). BUT, my little sister was constanly bitching at me and complaining to our Mom about me “making out” with my boyfriend. And we are talking just a couple of kisses here and there and sitting close together on the sofa with his arm around me. I realize that it being your brother raises the ick factor through the roof and all, but cut him a little slack. It’s not like they are coming into your room to kiss and have their “endless debates” in front of you - they are in his private bedroom. You have a few choices:
Don’t confront him again about it and don’t pull any of that “sit down between them” stuff. You are just going to piss him off. And, in a few years when you find yourself doing the same thing - you will find out that payback is a bitch.
And, about those “endless debates” - deal with it . You are going to have them eventually, too (and you will be just as sickening and annoying, I promise you that).
I understand that he’s your brother and that makes it gross. But I’m 35 and I’ve done a lot of kissing and have been around a lot of other people kissing. Never have I encountered people who kissed loudly enough to be heard in another room, snuggling makes no noise, and those “I love you more. No, I love you more” debates are not normally even at conversational levels… I don’t want to point fingers here - but it sounds like you are going out of your way to see and hear just so you can be ticked off about this.
Of course, this is all just my personal experience and humble opinion - take it for what you will.
Well, one hates to bring this up again, but since it’s already been mentioned once do you not see the difference between discussing pregnancy and masturbation with a 14 year old girl vs. recommendations of oral and rump sex? I wouldn’t mind my 14 year old daughter discussing pregnancy or even masturbation, but I wouldn’t want some grown man on a message board suggesting to her that oral and anal sex would be a viable alternative to birth control. Sorry, but I think it’s more than a little skeevy that you would talk to her like that.
Make that “viable alternative as birth control.”
Eh, a lot of what I did was immature. But until you’ve been raised in a house full of boys who aren’t that far separated in age you can’t really understand the context. You had to be immature, I don’t know of many groups of young boys you can put together at that age without starting some immaturity. I happened to use my strength and age to my advantage in my battles, and I’m saying that’s why my brothers knew better than to push me too far, I had an ace up my sleeve they couldn’t contend with.
As an adult I still would have stopped people from making out in my car, I find it rude and inappropriate in public, but completely intolerable (because I say so) in my car. Now, the people that I had kicked out of my car had been general assholes for the whole weekend. They bail on me when I’m looking for a parking spot, tell me we’ll meet during the game, we don’t. Tell me they’re going to scalp my brother’s tix because he couldn’t come, they don’t. They say we’re going to eat out after the game, we do, they both don’t have enough cash to pay and say they can’t afford to take it out on their cards. They also had promised to pay gas on money, they of course didn’t, and I had to scrounge deep to get gas money for the trip back home because I’d been bankrolling them completely for two days, when they made it patently clear they’d have enough cash for the trip (I’d gone on a trip with them once before, and they came up broke a few times, so before going down this time I told them they HAD to have spending money of their own.) I also end up finding out they spent $50 on beer and liquor at one point, and had secreted a bottle of Jack Daniels in the back of my car, and were sneaking drinks of it on the way home (yeah, because I wanted to get an open container violation.)
flamingbananas, your brother sounds like a real piece of work. If I had ever been caught talking to my sibling the way he did, I would have been knocked into next week, and rightfully so.
You are probably the most pathetic person I’ve ever encountered.
Yeah, I owe you an apology, fb. I didn’t mean it like it sounds.
I still do think it was a petty snipe, but I got nothing against that. I’ve posted plenty of my own petty snipes.
My comment was not directed at the OP, but rather at the responders who have taken the opportunity to turn a sibling spat among kids into a verbal brawl amongst themselves.
The thing is, older brothers will forever seek to torment their little sisters, and teenage boys will forever seek to get face time with pretty girls (or boys, depending on their orientation). It ain’t no big thing.
Again I wonder, though, will/do fb’s parents turn the same blind eye to her activities with her BF, current or future? Or will they/do they have to stay in the living room on opposite sides of the couch?
Ya, and we used to have slaves and women couldn’t vote. Times, they are a changin’. I am not a fan, as you might be able to tell, of that ‘house bed’ goofiness that is making a comeback in the nutter crowd.