To my (possibly soon-to-be-ex-) husband

You are such an asswipe!

Considering that I’m the one who left, why the hell would I change the address on the water bill to come to my apartment?? If I really wanted the house, I’d have kicked you out, not the other way around. And why the hell can’t you just ask me a simple question, instead of jumping to conclusions, being cold and nasty about it, and then accusing me of lying when I respond?? As I said on the phone, the fact that you’d even think that I would do something like t :mad: hat shows that you don’t know me. You then backtracked and said you know I wouldn’t do that, but my dad, or my “wicked” stepmother, or my sister would tell me to do that and get the house away from you. Again, if that’s what you think about my family. you don’t know them either. :mad: :mad:

And yes, the marriage problems we’re having are entirely my fault. :rolleyes: Yup. I’m a selfish, cold-hearted bitch. I didn’t work full-time and go to school full-time on scholarship, and still do any and all of the housework that managed to get done. I wasn’t working 60 hour weeks and dealing with major depression. I’ve told you I screwed up, have been trying to make amends.

But let’s talk about you for a minute. Lessee, the fact that we haven’t had sex in over 4 years now is my fault how? Because in the almost 14 years we’ve been married, I think we’ve averaged twice a month, and I initiated every damned one of those times except one. And let’s alk about how many times you turned me down. You were too tired. But I was the one who was working my ass off at work, college, and at home, while you came home every day at 4:30 or 5, sat around watching television, playing guitar, doing whatever.

Let’s also talk about your other “problems.” You shut me out of your life for years, and then you have the fucking gall to tell me that the only problem you had in our marriage was my money mismanagement!!!

How about the fact that I do suffer from major depression and anxiety, and yet you feel no qualms about waking me up (when I have insomnia problems as well) to tell me how everyone who doesn’t agree with you politically is a wicked person who should be killed! Or how there’s going to be widespread devastation because of some storm that’s coming along. Or whatever is stressing you out at the moment.

Oh yeah, and remember Mother’s Day? We went to lunch with my sister, my dad and stepmother, and you threw a temper tantrum because there was a black lump in your mashed potatoes and the server didn’t handle it appropriately. And when I tried to help you calm down, because it wasn’t really that big of a deal, you started getting ugly with me. And on Father’s Day, when I got called out as we were all finishing up lunch, my dad and monster kindly drove you home, and you insulted me to them, and insulted them also. Gosh, guess you’re a real winner!

It was bad enough when you insulted me when no one else was around. But when you started treating me that way in front of my family, that was enough. And you get mad at me because my family knows your private business. Well guess what–if you hadn’t hidden disgusting things under the sofa, my mother wouldn’t have seen them when I was sweeping one day during her visit. And yeah, you’re right, I was sweeping under the sofa because I knew you hid things there and I wanted to humiliate you. I really get off on having everyone know every intimate detail of your perversions. Mmmhmmm.

Does the fact that our bishop, in a church that believes families are of utmost importance, is the one who not only counseled me to leave you, but told me to do it that night not make you think that something’s wrong? And I love how you told me to tell our bishop, and my new one now that I’m living in another area, to “go fuck themselves.”

Why am I even bothering to try to salvage the marriage? I do take our marriage seriously, especially since I believe in eternal marriage, but the thought of being married to you for eternity is not a happy one. You can be so nice one night (minute), and then the next day (minute/hour/whatever) you are so cruel to me.

Well, guess what: I don’t have to put up with it. I’m not coming back unless/until things are very different. And if you don’t start trying to improve things, I ain’t coming back! I’ve been learning how to manage money better, I’ve gotten the depression under control, and it’s so nice not living with someone who tells me at least twice a week that I’m stupid. If that’s what life with you is going to be life, then I’m glad I’m gone.

It sounds like you shouldn’t hold your breath waiting for things to change. I am so sorry that this all has happened to you, but I think you made the right decision to leave.

(((((N.Sane)))))

Best of luck to you as you move forward.

Sweetie, don’t even consider it. You’ve moved out, now do not, do not, DO NOT, talk to him again. Make him call your lawyer.

I’m so sorry your going through this. If even your bishop says to leave I know it must be bad. They hardly ever council some one to leave a marriage. Be strong and remember you have friends here.

I’m guessing the OP is LDS?

Sounds as if you have nowhere to go but UP, dear, so spread your wings. Don’t let anyone suck you down.

What was the black lump in the mashed potatoes?
Sounds nasty.

I am LDS, not that you’d have guessed it by my lovely language. Sorry about that. This isn’t fun.

Thanks for the encouragement, all.

It was just a piece of potato that shouldn’t have been in there. He could have taken it out, or politely asked for a replacement. He did neither. He told the server about it, but didn’t ask for a replacement or anything. The manager came over and apologized, and he was polite to the manager. Then he was angry that his meal wasn’t comped, even though he ate the whole thing, sans black lump, of course.

He does that frequently. When we’ve gone out to dinner, something won’t be right, and instead of letting the server know and ask for a replacement, he will say everything is fine. On the rare occasions that he does complain, as above, he’ll let the server know but won’t ask for anything specific to be done and if they ask will say no. So he truly has no one to blame but himself for that.

One night we tried a new restaurant and he got blackened catfish. The blackening mixture had too much salt in it. He complained to me constantly, and when the server came to see how things were, he said fine. I told the server that the blackening mixture was too salty, she asked him if he wanted to try something different, brought him a new plate of food, and they comped his dinner. He’d have sat there and complained to me the whole time, and nothing would have happened.

What was under the couch? :eek:

Black things. Lumpy, black things. Salty, lumpy, black things.

A salty, lumpy black bishop.

A salty, lumopy, black bishop holding the water bill…

Sadly if you altered just about 20% of that post I’d have thought my mother had joined the boards.

Really don’t try to ‘salvage’ your marriage. Call it a lesson learned and move on. Don’t waste anymore time hoping things will change or get better they won’t. Even if he can fake not being a total asshole for a few months he’ll revert back as soon as he feels he’s safe.

I know wayyyy too much about the freqency of my mother’s sex life with her current husband…wimper

that’s lumpy .

Geesh-now you all know why I can’t quit my day job.

Yeah, ya can’t just tease us with that! :wink:

Oh, and 60 days no contact, minimum. I wish I’d cut my losses so much sooner.

It was a sex toy, and what’s worse, when I did sweep it out, my dog thought it was one of her toys and went for it.

I don’t want to be any more specific than that. Suffice it to say that it was, to me anyway, very disgusting. And no, before anyone asks, he’s not gay. I think I almost wish he were. He’s just totally screwed up.

Could someone other than the OP explain to me how threads (whether in the pit or not) like ‘To my (possibly soon-to-be-ex-) husband’ have anything other than negative consequences?

At the risk of sounding abrasive (I’m not, just baffled);

Does offering up a biased, one-sided retelling of marital dirty laundry have a positive effect?

Does anyone really believe advice or condolences from anonymous posters who are so far removed from the individual’s experiences on a public message board can do any good?

I’m sorry, I’m not trying to piss on your parade, I just think people should ask those questions to themselves before hitting the submit button. YMMV

I know you didn’t want the OP to explain this, so sorry but I’m going to give you my responses anyway.

My husband has crapped on me for years, and I’m tired of it. Today he behaved very badly, and I am frustrated. I needed to vent. He won’t listen to me when I try to talk, and my family and close friends (a) are probably sick of it and (b) don’t know about his specific problems (except for a very, very few) and I don’t feel like it’s there business.

I started this thread because I’m hurt and angry and wanted to express that.

I’ve never been in this position before. It hurts like bloody hell.

Yes it is one-sided. Do you want to know everything I’ve done wrong in our marriage? I’m a lousy housekeeper. I’m fat. I mismanaged our finances. What am I doing about it? Well, recognizing those facts and the roles they played in our marriage difficulties is a big step. I’m also living with my sister right now and keeping the apartment clean. I’m exercising and eating better in an effort to become less fat. I’ve gone to CCCS and am on a debt reduction plan and paying faithfully on it. My checkbook is now balanced to the penny, and I’m working very hard to learn how to many money.

And yes, the condolences/advice/whateveryouwanttocallit from people I don’t know does help. It gives me some hope that I can get through this.

Izzybella can tell you that, if anything, I’ve grossly understated the difficulties in my marriage. She’s seen it and has seen him insult the shit out of me in front of my family.

If I can’t even bring up a vent to help myself blow off steam and get some courage to keep going, then what am I supposed to do?

You are supposed to do exactly what you are doing! Ignore the people who can’t see any benefit in blowing off steam. There is nothing wrong with wanting a bit of sympathy, either! I lived in a verbally abusive marriage, too. I know what you mean about others being tired of listening to you, or at least you think they are.

Please vent any time you want to. Many of us here understand completely.

Someone said it earlier, and it bears a repeat. You have nowhere to go but up! Good luck to you.