To the creepy bastard who had nothing better to do than scare me shitless tonight....

Fuck you, asshole.

So I had a lot of laundry to do. I’ve been slacking, and it’s been building up for a month. I decided to go to a laundromat to get it done in 2 hours instead of 8 if I had done it in the laundry room at my apartment.

It’s late, after midnight, and the laundromat’s empty. Good, I can get a little reading done while I’m waiting. After loading the 6 or 7 loads into washers, I go outside to smoke a cigarette. As I’m finishing, I see out of the corner of my eye a figure walking towards me. I finish my smoke and head back into the laundromat, not wanting any contact with the person walking down the street. This neighborhood, while not particularly bad, is definitely not good. There are no bars or restaurants open at this time of night around here besides a 7-11 several blocks away, the neighborhood is usually deserted, so foot traffic past 11 is, to me (as a single young woman) suspicious.

I watch through the window and see that the figure approaching is a youngish man, 30-40, dressed in jeans and a wifebeater. He sits on the bus stop bench outside the laundromat. Not cool. First off, he saw me walk in the laundromat, so his decision to suddenly sit down outside is disconcerting. Second, this bus stops running at 11, so there’s no bus coming. People who sit at bus stops when buses aren’t running are usually homeless, drug addicts, prostitutes, or generally up to no good. Really not fucking cool.

A few minutes later, he comes into the laundromat and asks me for a light. Damn it. But then, he asks me if I smoke pot. I tell him I don’t, give him the light he asked for, he lights his blunt and goes back to the bus stop bench. Extremely not cool. People who ask strangers if they engage in illegal activities as an obvious offer to engage in said activity are definitely not the type of people I want to hang out with past midnight in an empty laundromat.

He smokes his blunt outside, I transfer my clothes to dryers. He finishes his blunt and comes inside, then sits next to me and tries to engage me in conversation. I give the briefest answers possible and try to ignore him, pretending to be engrossed in the day-old crossword puzzle. He sits there the whole time, making me so incredibly uncomfortable. I was going to fold all my laundry there so I could just throw it in my dresser when I got home, but I don’t want to spend any more time with Creepy McCreeperton. I haul ass as soon as the dryers stop, even though some of the towels needed a few extra minutes.

So fuck you, you oblivious fucking fuckwit. Guess what? Even if you’re an all right guy who was just bored, young unaccompanied women at empty laundromats in virtually deserted neighborhoods do not appreciate your presence. When I’m out alone after dark, particularly after midnight, any stranger is a potential rapist, murderer, or thief. Only if you’re under 12 or over 75 do I let my guard down, and even then not completely. Maybe I’m completely fucking paranoid, but I was under the impression that most solitary women look at men in less than wholesome neighborhoods after dark as potential predators.

Even if this had happened at 3 in the afternoon I would have pissed that a complete stranger tried to chat me up. At a bar, maybe it wouldn’t be such a big deal, or a party, or in some similar social situation. But when I’m going about my day, minding my own business, I don’t want to talk to strangers.

So stop being a rude, creepy, and annoying asshat. Stop approaching single women in the middle of the night. I should have called the cops and said there was a suspicious person loitering at the laundromat, possibly doing drugs. I should have told you to fuck off for being a creepy bastard. I really would have liked to punch you in the face for scaring me shitless.

Asshole.

Oh my goodness YES. I was going to write this rant about two weeks ago regarding the guy who thought a great place to strike up a conversation would be 200 metres of badly lit pathway running straight through a park, about an hour after dark - and then got pissy with me ("I was just trynabe friendly. Whyja have to be like that?) because I didn’t seem sufficiently enthusiastic about participating.

Fercryinoutloud, buy a clue guys. I mean, it’s not that I seriously think this guy was a sexual predator (I’d put the probabilities at “non-zero, but miniscule”) - the smart money is actually on “has no friends of his own due to being incredibly tedious and therefore reduced to approaching complete strangers who don’t yet know this” - but can we actually have a little thought about how your approach looks to the OTHER party to the conversation? You know, the person you’re actually trying to talk to? Thank-you

I’m trying to decide if you are braver or just stupider than I am. Because there is no fucking way I would have put myself in that circumstance, unless I was carrying at least a 38 or had a very large snarling dog as backup.

Wow. RedRoses not to go as far as Tinkertoy but do you have any self defense tools (i.e. mace, stun gun etc.) that you’re trained to use? I mean, if you’re that unsure of the situations you put yourself in, you should have a back up.

Do you carry a cell phone? The next time something like this happens, please consider calling the police.

Did you get the vibe that he would have responded badly if you had firmly told him to leave you alone?
Oops, I see that you believe that you should have called the cops. Hell yeah. He was breaking the law.

Nice of you people to assume the worst, first, and then blame them for it even when it turns out they’re innocent of any wrongdoing.

Well, he was smoking pot, which is against the law. You can argue that it shouldn’t be, and I would agree, but it is still wrongdoing. And sitting right beside the only woman, actually, the only person in a laundromat after midnight is creepy behavior. I would have told him to fuck off, but I’m a physically imposing male. Odds are he would not have sat down anywhere near me.

Ooh, you’re so rough! And weed makes me horny. You just think you don’t know me; I’ve been worshiping you from afar for months now. Want a toke?

:smiley:

I’m not tough, I just look tough. Not just my opinion, I hear it all the time.

My point is still valid. Approaching a stranger in the manner described in the OP is creepy behavior.

Yes, I’d blame them for it, because they’re fucking stupid. What guy with an ounce of brains thinks that finding a woman at night in an abandoned area is a great atmosphere for chatting her up for a date?

You Americans really do scare easily.

It’s catching on over here too, sadly.

Common sense has a way of doing that.

Yeah, I’m sure a solitary woman where you live would have no problem with a strange man approaching her in a secluded spot in the middle of the night. There are certainly never any rapes, assaults or muggings there and women have no reason to worry about their safety, ever.

I don’t understand the venom. Maybe, just maybe, he was hanging around to make sure that you were okay. I’ve seen little kids left alone in cars and I’ll hang around until their parents return to make sure they’re safe. It may creep the kids out, but my intentions are honorable.

“I was out for a stroll, and saw this hot looking chick standing outside a laundry. Couldn’t see what she was smoking, but it looked a bit like dope. Anyway, she went inside so I thought I’d try and make conversation. She seemed to be playing hard to get, so I thought I’d offer her some of my own pot. She wasn’t interested in that, so I gave up. Never mind, plenty of fish in the sea”

In general there is little enough of this sort of activity it’s not worth worrying about.

And what the OP was saying was not, “This guy was about to attack me.” She was saying that the guy should have considered that as a woman by herself, in the middle of the night, in a spot where nobody else was around, she probably was not going to be receptive to a stranger approaching her. She is asking men to think about a woman’s feelings and concerns and try to be a little sympathetic. Think about the fact that she may feel uncomfortable, a little (or a lot scared) and is probably not going to be the most welcoming to your advances in this sort of situation. Try again in a social setting, or at least one that’s a little more conducive to the woman being relaxed and at ease. I’ll guarantee that your chances of getting somewhere are a hell of a lot better.

"So, whatcha doin’?

“Nothin- Just doing the laundry for my boyfriend. He’s picking me up in a few minutes. I hope I do it right this time; last time he beat the shit out of me for screwing it up. And I can’t call the cops because he IS one!”

cue asshole running out of the laundromat

Seriously though, I would have called the cops. Just call up and say “Look, I’m at XYZ laundry and I’m alone. There’s a guy here that’s creeping me out and smoking pot and I’d love for someone to send him on his way.” No biggie. Don’t put yourself in circumstances, but if you do, don’t hesitate to get help. They would rather come help you at the time than when you’re beat up/murdered/raped.

The guy was an asshole.

And as for Americans scaring easily, I’m English and I know that my wife (also English) would have reacted in exactly the same fashion as RedRosesForMe.

Ask a few of the women in your community what their reaction would be in the situation described in the OP. Even in the most idyllic of settings, unless they knew they guy, I’d bet a lot of money that they’d be more on the side of “get the hell out of here and away from this guy” than “give me a pen and I’ll give you my number, stud.”