You forgot “Run. Do not walk,” another SDMB favorite. If I had the same tolerance level exhibited by many dopers, I’d have no friends left, no girlfriend, and wouldn’t be on speaking terms with any of my relatives.
A rare incident of jerkishness? An old friend will get a bit more of a pass. But you’re very right, if things fit a regular pattern, then it’s time to re-evaluate.
Back in this thread I started off saying I’d recently ditched a close friend who I’d known for 20+ years. The incident which precipitated the friend-dumping was actually pretty mundane, but it underscored a long-term pattern of douchebaggery and disrespectful behavior. He’d been called on it again and again, although usually it wasn’t directed at me. His pattern is a broad pattern of jackassitude, but he is a particular asshole with people he takes for granted, like his own family.
One day he did something that, in itself, wasn’t a big deal, but in the big picture highlighted the fact that, really, he is a dick.
When the pattern under discussion is placing ones glasses where they will certainly either need to be moved, or be accidentally broken, within a short time, this statement is pretty telling. I find the overall rigidity and the unabashed nature of it concerning. I would probably not remain friends with someone who said this, unless a long pattern of behavior showed me that they didn’t really mean it.
Nowhere in the post does it say “this behavior is unusual for him” or “I was surprised by his reaction.” My read was: Either the friendship is a new one, or the behavior is fairly typical.
IOW, it isn’t that he acted in an assholish way, it’s that he stated his full intention to continue doing so under any circumstances and a refusal to consider changing in any way, for any one, at all, ever.
That’s how I interpreted the “I’m not changing my behavior” statement as well. I’m okay, if someone says “I find it difficult to accommodate [some specific preference or request]”. But an outright refusal to consider anyone else’s wishes puts a black mark next to your name in my Big Book of Buddies.
The statement, if quoted accurately, came across (to me) as: “I intend to disregard your/anyone’s wishes if they don’t suit me.” Everyone else will just have to defer to his preferences. Common courtesy involves a certain amount of mutual consideration and give and take. To say outright that you have no intention of respecting anyone else’s wishes/preferences/phobias/needs or honoring requests made in good faith, then well… That wouldn’t be acceptable to me either. Friendship is not supposed to be dictatorial.
Granted the guy may have said something stupid just in the heat of annoyance, but such a statement would certainly make me go :dubious:
To me, the exchange related by KellyCriterion really strongly suggested that this “friend” doesn’t really respect her as a friend at all. The initial and continued peevishness makes it clear that he values his sunglasses more than KellyCriterion, so I’d say there’s not even really a “friendship” there to be dropped. Not knowing the prior nature and extent of the relationship makes it difficult to judge, of course, but I’d only revise my above assessment if that conversation was extraordinarily atypical.
Then again, I’m not sure I’d want to be friends with the sort of person who spends $600 on sunglasses anyway.
My issue with the friend in the other thread wasn’t his obstinate shortsightedness or arrogance, it was his view that the OP would owe him $600. That to me is screwing over a friend. A friend is someone you would do something for, not someone you’d stick with your $600 bill. If I had a friend who thought so little of me, I’d drop him. I have plenty of other friends that get a lot of leeway, and I’m sure I’ve done my own share of stupid, but the OP’s friend seems to me to not really fit the definition of “friend” in the first place.
I’ve dropped friends a couple of times, but it was for pretty egregious behaviors over long periods of time. Ordinarily, friendships just fade away if they’re not mutually agreeable.
Ah, I had been thinking they were sunglasses for some reason, but on review I see that wasn’t specifically stated in KellyCriteron’s post. Probably I got that impression because he had taken them off and set them down, an action that would never occur to my mind in conjunction with eyeglasses – my uncorrected vision is not so good.
But either way, his attitude with respect to his glasses vs. his friend is not very friend-like, IMHO. If it had been me putting my glasses on the seat and having them nearly squished by a friend, my immediate response would have been “Well, I’m pretty lucky those didn’t break, or else I’d be out a $600 pair of glasses.” I would certainly hope my friend would be contrite about the incident, and if they were truly a friend they’d offer to pay for any damage, but to expect it like that, especially so petulantly, is churlish.
I recently paid over $300 for my pair of glasses, and I went with the cheap options. I could easily have doubled the cost with features that I consider pretty important. And if somebody sat on them and broke them, I’d be pretty pissed.
My first reaction would also be more along the lines of “Phew! I’m so lucky my glasses aren’t broken!” There wouldn’t be the immediate assignment of blame and certainly not an immediate expectation of compensation for an accident to which I contributed.
ETA: To be fair, if I was having a really bad day and feeling pissy, I might say “Crap! You sat on my glasses!” but I still wouldn’t say some horseshit about how everyone else has to work around my habits no matter how stupid.
I can’t imagine being friends with someone who would sincerely behave in such a strange way. If a close friend did I’d have to chalk it up to temporary insanity or a strange sense of humour.