Tolkien trivia contest

Ulmo and Nienna

Scratch Ulmo…I was mixing him up with Osse.

Isn’t Cirdan the only elf, along with his crew one supposes, that visits and then returns from the Undying Lands?

Sorry, no.

Think HOMES volume I as the place for the answer. Not that you should rush there, that would be cheating. But let your mind wander back to that volume. :smiley:

There are many other exceptions, Glorifindel being the most notable. But Thingol visited and returned to lead his people and then was lost on the way back.

I am surprised by Aule being wrong. In the Beginning Aule and Melkor were most alike in mind. I await the porper answer and the reasons later in the thread.
As far as Trotter losing his feet, I have a vague memory of it being Wolf related.

Jim

I think you’re thinking of Elwë (Elu Thingol). He got taken to the undying lands along with Ingwë and Finwë, by Oromë. All 3 returned to ME, to tell their people of what awaited them if they followed Oromë. And that’s why Elwë was considered to be one of the Calaquendi, as he had seen the light of the Two Trees with his own eyes.

Otherwise, Glorfindel is the only other candidate I can think of, who returned. Even Earendil was not allowed to set foot in Middle-Earth (he had to stay on his flying boat while he battled Ancalagon the Black).

Excluding the rebellious Noldor, of course. I think Elwë was the only elf who was born in ME, went to the Undying Lands, then went back and eventually had his body perish in ME. Except maybe for Glorfindel, if he was one of the first-awakened. Or not. It gets confusing.

Sheesh, I’m the only person here who knows that Makar and Measse were sympathetic to Melko? And Gwerlum was, of course, the Spider of Darkness, later known and Ungoliant.

While it is always fun to renew acquaintance with fellow Tolkien enthusiasts, I think your questions should be a wee bit less ambigous.

For example, Cirdan was the only Elf to give away his Ring of Power!

Oh, right, I guess I have to post some, now…

  1. What are the only two sports mentioned in The Hobbit?
  2. What does “Baruk” mean, and in what language?
  3. What did Bilbo give to Lobelia Sackville-Baggins on the occasion of his eleventy-first birthday?

No. Celebrimbor gave all his up.

Ding ding din! We’ve got a winner!

  1. golf is one. Archery is also mentioned.
  2. Axes. Dwarvish
  3. An invitation to his party. He also gave her offense, as she left in a huff.

Tut tut. Ludovic (post #9) and smiling bandit (post #15), read the OP again. No checking in books (or looking at movies) for answers! Rely on your memory alone, please.

I thought he also gave Lobelia the rest of the silver spoons she had partially removed all those years before when Bilbo was presumed dead.

Golf was of course invented by accident by Bullroarer took when he lopped off the head of a Goblin and in rolled down a whole.

Jim

  1. Why the hell did the dwarves allow the Elves to carve the word “Moria”- black pit- on the doors to their beautiful stronghold of Khazad-Dum, some 300 years before the Balrog and orcs drove them out and caused that name to be commonly ascribed to what had, up until then, been known also as the Dwarrodelf and the Glittering Hall?

Was archery actually mentioned as a sport, though? If so, then there’s at least three. I was thinking of another. But yes, Bandobras Took’s invention of golf was one.

And he gave her the spoons. I wanted to ask about whom he gave the umbrellas, but I can’t remember that myself.

Oops, sorry, should have answered a question.

Surely Tolkein mentions stone-throwing as being something specialised in by hobbits? Doesn’t that count as a sport, since they use it both for entertainment and to ward off hostile beasts?

It was a little Elven Humor. Those Elves were quite the sly jokers. The Dwarves never caught onto the meaning of Moria back then. They were convinced it was meant something good.

Jim {I’ve got to defend the Professor, alternate answer was a simple error in translating the ancient copy of the Red Book}

So despite years of friendly trading with the Elves, NOT ONE dwarf picked up the basics of their most common language (not to mention one that should be familiar to the most half-arsed Middle Earth scholar)?