Top 11 known arrests/crimes from the family that was to restore dignity..

Well, he does have an outstanding arrest warrant, and he was sentenced to 20 years in prison, but hey.

Oh, come on, if we didn’t challenge the Bushes on their “family values” and morality line, people might assume they weren’t a bunch of big-ass hypocritical liars. Which, of course, they are.

This is the best they could come up with? A 27 year old DUI (at a time when DUI wasn’t as stigmatized as it is today), stealing a Christmas tree and a bunch of stuff that Bush has no control over? The daughters drink underage? Like virtually every other teen in America? His brother’s family is dysfunctional? So? I don’t particularly like the guy, but I don’t find this piece of mud slinging particularly compelling.

Show me convictions for corruption, fraud, influence peddling, or something else that would make someone unfit to be chief executive.

Yeah. Like Clinton, the widely-noted and much-accomplished philanderer, never spoke glowingly of “traditional family values.” He’s every bit as hypocritical as you’ve made Bush out to be on that subject. Perhaps it’s best you try another tack. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to browbeat Bush. I don’t think this is one of 'em.

True. Has anyone here read Fall From Grace? It covers political scandals from the cross-dressing colonial governor of New York to the Iran-Contra Affair (it was written in 1991 so it doesn’t cover the Clinton scandals, obviously). It has all sorts of stuff like James Buchanan possibly being the first gay president, the disputed election of 1877, the Adamses as the 18th and 19th century version of the Kennedys, Grover Cleveland’s illegitamate child.

Can’t they both be full of shit?

Finagle, let me remind you of the saga of brother Neil Bush and Silverado Savings and Loan. Only $1,600,000,000 in taxpayer money went to settle that case alone. As for the significance of DUI’s, there are a lot of people in prison right now for drunken driving. In my state, a third lifetime DUI, no matter how much time passes between them, brings an automatic six month sentence without parole. Their DUI’s do, also, make Bush and Cheney the first convicted criminals ever to reach the White House.

UncleBeer, if you have any cites for Clinton speaking of “traditional family values” in the way you suggest, let’s have 'em, pardner. Or else that’s just another example of a stretch to create a moral equivalency where there is none, just to help you feel better. Doesn’t work here, of course.

I’m wryly amused by the argument that Laura Bush didn’t do anything wrong because there weren’t actually any criminal charges filed. That makes her exactly as pure as the Clintons, ya know? But the guy is still dead. She did kill him. One might wonder if a poor black guy who did the same thing would have been let off the same way.

leatherheather, you’re right about no politician being truly above reproach. But few have been so public about proclaiming themselves to be anyway, and few have had so compliant a media as to let that claim stand. It’s that hypocrisy, by Bush himself as well as by his reflexive apologists, that is the topic here, not his wrongdoings or his family’s.

Cite? Not saying this is wrong, but I would have thought that many other presidents/VPs have had past criminal offenses that were minor and/or from their youth.

Either way, as others have said, there are much more relevant issues to raise about the Bush administration. These are pretty silly IMO.

Definitely.

Drunk driver hypocrite George W. Bush has his Dick Cheney, and impeached disbarred liar William J. Clinton had his Henry Cisneros. Tweedle-dee and Tweedle-dum.

Sure. How 'bout Clinton’s nomination acceptance speech at the '96 Democratic national convention? Here’s one analysis:
http://dm.olemiss.edu/archives/96/9608/960830/news.html

Here’s a 1994 article from The Atlantic. It’s an analysis of another Clinton speech.
http://www.theatlantic.com/unbound/jfnpr/jf41110.htm

Here’s part of the lead-in to a 1994 Time magazine article (you gotta buy the thing from their archives if you wanna read it all)
http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/from_redirect/0,10987,1101941017-163064,00.html

Here’s a line from yet another 1994 article - this one from the University of Tennessee’s Daily Beacon.

Another, September 12, 1992:
http://www.tyndallreport.com/cc9237.html

The American Prospect - Online, 2002

Or ya know, just see any Clinton speech written by Dick Morris. He’s the guy who co-opted Qualye’s “family values” malarkey for Clinton’s use.

So, stretch this, pardner.

Haven’t read the OP, have ya? The whole thing is a list of his and his “family’s” wrongdoings. Nary a word about hypocrisy.

[bolding mine]

So, nary this, pardner.

No, no, no…word this, pardner.

No, no, no…Oh, never mind.

Bush might be bad, but at least he never had anyone run down by a train.

I’m just nitpicking, but I’ve always heard he stole a Christmas wreath (I think from Paul Begala’s Is Our Children Learning?), not an entire tree.

Unless you have some evidence to show that George W. Bush was involved or knew about this, then you have to explain to me why it’s of interest in a discussion of our current President. Otherwise, it’s just cheap political mudslinging.

Yeah, Dubya’s family wasn’t at all involved in his successful theft of the Presidency. The fact that he’s a previous President’s son and his brother was governor of the key state in the election was a big, fat coincidence. Neil Bush … George probably wouldn’t recognize him nowadays …

the bush involvement in the savings & loan scandal is more important than any DWI as far as im concerned

http://www.rationalrevolution.net/bush_family_and_the_s.htm

C’mon folks, they went after Clinton by dragging a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park.

With GWB, you’d just need to drag a coke spoon through a country club.

Wow, people have spots on their past. And family members have spots too!
I’m shocked.

No. That goes against Doctrine.

From the first page of the Liberal Doctrine manual:

“…damning evidence, no matter how trivial, petty, or preposterous”

Coincidentally, that same line is in the manual of Conservative Doctrine.

Now you know how WE felt when the conservatives were beating up on Clinton for a bunch of mostly made-up stuff. Now, shut up and take your lumps. You’ve EARNED every last one of 'em.